[WC Finals] (3)Golden State vs. (4)Dallas

So it's dishonest to cite what the record books say? Ok.

 

I agree somewhat. Harden took the Warriors to the max and Luka got the gentleman’s sweep.

the NBA wanted GSW back in it. They are also building Silver’s resume and what was happening during his tenure

 

is luka a fraud?

hardon at least carried the okc's to the finals while coming off the bench

 

Harden lost in 5 the first two times he faced the Warriors in the playoffs.

 

you’re right. I forgot about 14 & 15. 6 & 7 games the other 2 years.

 

You're also forgetting about Chris Paul. He was just as, if not more, important as Harden in 2018 against GSW.

 

Yes he was more important in my opinion. When he went out that put too much on Harden to carry. Plus that style of basketball is easy to defend so it wore him down quick.

 

Heliocentric system is tiring. Luka spent lot of energy on offense. His defense is already sus, he was taking rest on defensive side of the ball. Luka should lose a few pounds over the summer, do cardio and build stamina. Does he want to be known as Lard Luka or Lean Luka.

There's no guarantee Mavs will get back to the WCF. But in post conferences, they talked as if they would. Nuggets/Clippers other teams might have their guys back. The road won't be as easy as this year.

 

Just like the Lard Harden...

 

Wiggins is a #1 overall pick
Kuminga is a 7th pick
Wiseman is a #2 Pick
Porter is a #3 Pick

Intriguing

Rocket River

 

what the tweet meant was that gsw's lottery pick superstars got a pretty decent supporting cast in kerrie, white bird, and donkey.

 

If y'all think the NBA is rigged why do you keep following the NBA?

I dont get it y'all are absolutely convinced the NBA rigs games to make certain teams win but at the same time you want your own team to win? How does that even work?

I dont even get the reason why NBA will rig games in favor of Miami, Miami is a nice city to live in but $$$ they are a small/mid market team. Prior to Dwade their goat player is Alonzo Mourning.

 

I think certain series have been rigged.....not that the NBA is rigged on a nightly basis.

Regarding your Alonzo Mourning comment....ok, Mourning was their GOAT until 2003. So what? Their top two franchise GOATS are now Wade and Lebron. How does that change your opinion on Miami?

 

I actually don’t have anywhere near the passion for the nba that i had before 2018. That was the turning point for me, when silver took away our shot at the title. The miami title was rigged by the refs themselves, not the league as far as i’m aware (there’s no reason for the league the rig a finals itself, just who is in it)

 

My point is Alonzo Mourning is a 2nd tier NBA great, Miami isn't relevant enough for NBA to rig games in their favor.

There isn't one owner of the entire NBA it is owned by 32 individuals. You can argue some individuals are more powerful and have more sway than the others, but if the NBA is gonna rig a series between 2 opponents then that's gonna shake the trust of the NBA owners. Like say you are the owner of the Charlotte Hornets and then you lose unfairly to the Lakers. Are you gonna take that knowledge that you won't ever win a title no matter how good your team is cuz its rigged? Lots of owners would complain and pull out if the NBA was rigging games in favor of certain teams and because they are all owners at the end of the day.

If the NBA is rigging things it would've done something for the New York Knicks, their biggest market with the highest potential to earn $$$, long ago. Why wouldn't they give ZIon to New York and instead give him to a small market team like New Orleans? Makes zero sense.

 

If it was really a turning point for you just stop following the NBA. By your logic the Rockets will never win a ring cuz Silver will take it from us everytime.

Btw the Rockets were the 4rth most profitable team during the Alexander/Morey era+they had that China pull so if the NBA was gonna rig games they'd rig it in favor of the Rockets. How many people are there in China who would tune in to see the Rockets, Yao Ming's team, play in the Finals?

Everytime their team loses fans always say the NBA is rigged. But if asked why the NBA would do it there's always zero sense in these claims.

 

Miami also was founded in the late 80's. Pointing to Mourning as some sort of criticism for their first 15 years of existence is either intellectual dishonesty or ignorance.

I'm pretty sure they'd dry their tears using the millions of dollars that the NBA generates for them and get over it.

As a thought experiment, have you considered that the intent was to rig against Dallas? And not necessarily in favor of Miami?

Also, think about the nature of rigging. It has less to do with markets and potential and more to do with the money at stake. Think gambling.

Because Zion isn't that good? Also, there's no need to rig draft lotteries nowadays since players are dictating where they want to go.

 

Stephanies all over the place and faces.

 

What dishonesty are you talking about? I'm not criticizing Mourning I'm pointing out Miami is not a big market of the NBA and didnt attract top stars till Lebron so they arent high on NBAs "must rig" priority.

Getting to the finals and winning a ring generates $$$ so by your logic smaller teams would be even angrier to lose to rigged games. If a small team makes the Finals thats at least 4 games where the entire NBA watches them not to mention all the sold out arenas and Lesgue NBA ppvs. Even if NBA is generating money all the owners are getting paid anyway so why would the owners be ok with losing unfairly to others when they are all owners?

Again rig against Dallas why would Cuban stand for that? And why would other owners not be alarmed to see NBA rigging games against other owners? Its Dallas today could be them tom. Theres a lot more small teams than big teams in the NBA if guys like Memphis, Cleveland, OKC and Portland owners see the NBA screwing everyone who has a playoff round vs GSW you bet they will get angry AF.

Gambling? The ref and syndicates gamble not the NBA itself. Unless you are asserting the mafia is the true owner of the NBA or something crazy like that NBA doesnt make money from gambling. Plus you are the one saying NBA alreafy generates so much profit for the owners so why would they need to gamble and risk closure of the league? Just for 4-7 games? Makes zero sense unless you are doing tin foil hat speculation.

Zion isnt thst good? Now who is being intellectually dishonest now? Zion was the most hyped rookie in the NBA since Lebron James. He also wanted to go to NYC so if the NBA was really rigging things they would rig it so New York which is the mecca of bball would get either him or Ja Morant instead of RJ Barrett.

Look at Rockets according to Rox fans the league hates the Rockets but they have a top 3 pick 2 yrs in a row. Meanwhile Pistons who had the new up and coming face of the league Cade Cunningham gets 5. Lol again your accusations make zero sense.

 

Your point is not a good point since you're looking at the first 15 years of the Heat's existence. New York is a big market, right? Whose gone there recently?

I'm glad you understand this. This answers your previous question as to why the owners don't sell their franchises.

There are rumors that Cuban wanted to sue the NBA after the 2006 finals, but doing so would've killed the golden goose.

The owners make the big money; the refs don't. And the NBA doesn't call the fouls. The refs do.

You're the one being intellectually dishonest. Do you understand the difference between "hype" and "reality"? The fact that Zion was hyped means nothing. He's an elite short-range scorer who can't stay healthy and is a defensive liability. No one cares if he wants to go to NYC.

New York may have been the mecca of basketball in the past, but it's largely irrelevant now.

Why are you fixated on draft lotteries? They're meaningless. By the time a young star is ready to make a star impact on a winning team, he'll be at the end of his rookie contract and be able to choose his next destination.