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[WC Finals] (1)LA Lakers vs. (3)Denver

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Sep 15, 2020.

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(1)LA Lakers vs. (3)Denver

Poll closed Sep 18, 2020.
  1. Lakers in 4

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  2. Lakers in 5

    18.3%
  3. Lakers in 6

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  4. Lakers in 7

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  5. Nuggets in 7

    30.0%
  6. Nuggets in 6

    8.3%
  7. Nuggets in 5

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  8. Nuggets in 4

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  1. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    Memes aside, does anyone actually think the Nuggets come back from being down 1-3 and win this series?

    LeBron and AD are not Mitchell/Gobert nor Kawhi/Wayoff P.
     
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  2. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    Using this logic is the same as using the box score to explain why a player played well or didn't play well. Numbers don't tell the whole story.

    That obvious non-call when LeBron swiped down and hit Murray's arms was big. When Anthony Davis landed, hurt himself and a foul was called on Millsap, was a very big call.
     
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  3. DVauthrin

    DVauthrin Contributing Member

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    I honestly had forgotten about that game, so you could very well be right. The fourth quarter of Game 6 vs the Kings will always be etched in my mind, though. The Lakers had nearly 30 free throws in the quarter.
     
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  4. Outlier

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    Yeah, seriously. The NBA does a good job of disguising these bad calls by giving calls when the game is over with already. The momentum fouls are the ones they obviously rig.
     
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    DVauthrin Contributing Member

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    That’s why it is so annoying when people say the refs didn’t cost them the game, something else did (rebounding last night). With 1:29 left in the fourth quarter, it was 109-102. If the Nuggets get those three or four calls where Murray is hammered on drives, it would likely be a one-possession game, at worst. The Nuggets could also have been ahead by that point.

    All of those calls matter, and they flip momentum. It’s easy to say play through it, as any coach tells their team, but the truth is even they know refs can and have decided games before.
     
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    DVauthrin Contributing Member

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    If you eliminated the refs, absolutely. The Nuggets had a chance last night despite the referees’ involvement, and Anthony Davis had to hit a last-second three to win game 2. Unfortunately, I don’t see it happening because the referees won’t let it happen if the Nuggets get close to pulling it off.
     
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  7. Reeko

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    exactly...keep that same energy

    Rockets stay getting screwed by the refs, and we’ll have a whole bunch of people talking about how we need to just play through it, just hoop, etc...same sh*t happens to another team, and then it’s an outrage

    nah, play through it like the Rockets are always supposed to
     
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  8. DVauthrin

    DVauthrin Contributing Member

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    Nobody should have to play through it. That’s just a BS line that coaches feed their players during the game because they know it won’t change, and they don’t want their team to simply give up. Coaches at any level of basketball know that officiating can and has decided games before.
     
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  9. Reeko

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    tell that to all the people on CF who say that constantly

    Rockets get fcked in game 7 of the WCF...should’ve made more shots, should’ve adjusted

    Rockets get fcked in game 1 against GS last year...they need to stop looking for calls and just hoop

    Rockets being the best team at getting to the line this entire regular season, but then against OKC they experience a monumental free throw disparity and are dead last out of 16 playoff teams in attempts in the 1st round...I’m arguing with multiple people in the GARM trying to tell me that it’s not the refs, it’s because the Rockets shoot threes...like we weren’t shooting threes all regular season

    Denver is getting screwed? Welcome to the fckery the Rockets experience annually. Rockets always told to stfu and stop crying.
     
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    I think some of the criticism about the Rockets is true when it comes to 4th quarter folding, heads hung, giving up. You can't deny that Denver has fought harder and with more confidence in situations like that.

    But, truth be told, no matter how they fight to the end, the refs can make or break them with 2 or 3 calls in those close games.
     
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  11. Easy

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    Yep. That non-call on LeBron's foul on Murray was a 4-point swing in crunch time. That pretty much crushed any fight for a Denver come back.
     
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    my first thought after last nite's rigged event was that the nugz players are young, but they just grew up a bunch in one quarter. whereas the rockets vets basically saw the writing on the wall after game 2 -- it took denver until the end of game 4 to finally realize that resistance is futile and 5 on 8 is pointless. i expect them to come out tomorrow just as listless and lifeless as the rockets were beginning in game 3
     
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    Add in the later no call where Jokic's feet came down right on LeBron's foot as he got up in his landing zone shooting the 3, which caused Jokic to fall to the ground. No call there either late in the 4th.
     
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    Davis was 5-18 when being defended by Millsap going into the game. Millsap picked up two fouls in the first two minutes of the game..and had another BS offensive foul called on a KCP flop.
     
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    Yep. Funny how those 2 quick calls can make a difference on one team. Same with 2 quick could on Jokic in the 4th to put him at 5 fouls.

    I'm not saying the fouls weren't fouls, but just question that AD, LeBron or Howard got the same treatment. It goes both ways, especially when it's calls on starters.
     
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    Denver needs to stop crying all the time and letting the refs get to them...even if they’re getting screwed, just hoop and stop looking at the refs to bail u out
     
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    I agree with you on all points. Unfortunately, you can’t change others’ minds, so the best thing you can do is speak honestly here and not worry about what other people think. It doesn’t matter if you present facts and data to certain people, as they still will dismiss them.

    Basically, focus your energy on only what you can control.
     
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  18. Reeko

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    the refs have too much control over the outcome

    if we go back to game 7 against GS, they just completely ignored Harden getting completely hacked twice from three with no call...GS got a Klay three pointer off 1 of those no-calls...then they took away a 4 point play...that’s 10 potential points, with 6 of them taken away while we had all the momentum

    Harden probably makes 6 out of those 7 free throws he got robbed out of getting...maybe even all 7...so instead of Harden having 32 points on 12-29 shooting in game 7, he could’ve had 41 or 42 points on 13-28 shooting, and that’s his signature playoff moment

    it’s why I will never criticize Harden for that game 7...he came to play, and got screwed

    these refs have been outta control for years

    they’ll allow 1 team to be extra physical while the other team can’t even touch somebody without hearing a whistle...it prevents u from getting a good rhythm

    Denver is getting their 1st taste of the last few years of what the Rockets have dealt with...they almost seem shocked that the refs seem so biased towards the Lakers
     
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    just play through it...refs are human and incorrect calls even out over a series
     
  20. Rocket River

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    lol
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