As a huge Green supporter, making moves planning he turns into a franchise player is more dangerous than providing a cushion (1 or 2 more top 5 picks) for him not to be a franchise player. At the end of the day getting a franchise player and having the ability to build around them is so so critical.
There hasn't been a team that's won it all without having at least one All-NBA player on the roster since 1989 Pistons.
now, one way to get a great player is let sengun play so he can win ROY.... i am sure he will attract some great player to play together with him...are you kidding me? but no we gotta sit sengun and tank lololololol no you dont have to tank, just be smart... you dont even have to be smart just not incredibly stupid
I think the moves that need to be made don't even require an overhaul, tanking for another project, or overpaying for a FA.. I do agree though that alot of what I'm saying emphasizes Green becoming that franchise player... I'm not talking Kobe-esque.. But I think a consistent 25/5/5 guy with this kind of talent around him can make us a contender with a few minor moves in the future.. Big if but I think we're close to being above average.. Coaching and rotation management are the key IMO.. The talent is there with the exception of a true point guard( I know everyone can't be CP3) .. Contending may be a reach but I don't think we're as bad as our record indicates... Silas was just slow to the party... We're a young .500 level team IMO which would be great ...
lol man , you’ve found my weakness . I root for wood because he’s a rocket , but I don’t have a high opinion of the guy . I would much rather build around Tate and several of the young guys . KPJ and sengun have brilliant flashes at times . Then hopefully our other 3 draft picks improve . From your wood pairing argument, it seems Like you value him at like a B+ to A- potential player . That’s kind of how I view Tate , but since it seems like he’s more of a defensive oriented / ball movement type of guy ... that’s what I prefer . If he were available, the guy I’d want most is Brandon Ingram . Green and filler ? Maaaaaaybe wood , but you’d prefer to trade him elsewhere . But , I’d wait till trade deadline or offseason and not include our own top 10 pick if things fell that way . But maybe green starts showing you something and you keep him. Gordon is playing like a positive right now . Always an injury consideration unfortunately. I’m not saying don’t be open to the tear down. But you have guys that can play , let them play . about the only thing I disagree with this year was starting green those first 15 or so games. In the end , I’m not that upset about it . But I think gordon coulda started and we might have won a few more games . Maybe Eric wasn’t ready for the start of the season . But judging from greens hamstrings ... Well , let’s just hope it was bad luck . I thought we were purposefully losing games. Now people say we were , and the culprit was theis . maybe it’s helped greens development . But would coming off the bench for 15-20 have been that much worse ? Would it have made a difference in the W-L column ? Idk Given where we already are , I’d like to continue the tank this year . By that I mean don’t push the young guys too hard . Their bodies are still not ready for an NBA season. if you find a good deal for wood At the deadline or during the offseason I’d take it . I think sengun and theis will be a rock solid unit at the 5 . Unless wood becomes an amazing defender at the 4 , then I think you can’t commit a big contract at the 5 .
It's been pretty routine between you and I today: I present something factual and you reply with .gifs.
Yeah, first step for most teams is clear the clutter (large contracts that limits flexibility, poor attitude players, etc) then do what you have to in order to get a franchise player you can build around. I bold that last part because there's no point in trading for a franchise player if you deplete your assets you need in order to build around him. OKC depleted some of our assets and the Harden trade recouped some. The picks we have control over are some of our most valuable assets. Sure, they're unknown and could be flops (decent odds 3 top 5 picks aren't), but I am not willing to settle for some mediocre assets because picks are unknown. I do not want to be what Spurs have been the last few years.
The difference between the draft and free agency is immense when factoring in the salary cap. With free agents, teams often have to overpay to get players to sign unless the team is on the cusp of a title or is one of the marquee franchises/locations. And teams often end up in a bidding war for quality players driving up the price. Whereas draft picks are on cost controlled contracts and remain under the teams control for a minimum of 4 seasons. If Green pans out, the last 2 years of his rookie deal will make him a huge bargain and allow the rockets to spend more in other areas of the team while staying under the cap/tax. There is tremendous value in that.
I honestly think you just made an argument for tanking. You say there are 4 ways to improve. I would say free agency is virtually off the table already because we won't be able to attract a superstar unless we have a superstar. And I can't remember a single time in our history that we were able to lure a superstar without having one in place. Clyde and Barkley wanted to join Hakeem. T-Mac wanted to join Yao. Dwight, CP3 and Westbrook wanted to join Harden. So there are four ways. one is already off the table. and you're arguing we should consider taking another off the table too? no thank you.
I feel like the trade option for a franchise level player is essentially dead in the NBA. Players now force their way out with 1 or 2 years left on their contract so no one is willing to give up asset for them unless you want to make a gamble like the Raptors for 1 year. trades are literally like free agency these days, and players get rewarded with no repercussions.
Well there is another way, although it's not used often 1.hire a private investigator to follow whichever gm you want to deal with 2. Let's say for argument it's presti. The p.i. will follow presti everywhere hopeing to get pictures of him cheating on his wife with a male escort in a crack motel. 3. Once you obtain those pics, you call and blackmail him for giddey and all of our picks back or else mrs presti sees them Something I wud do if I was stone. Pi's are pretty cheap(ive hired one b4 when i had my divorce)
Tanking will take care of itself. Trading Gordon and/or Wood and playing the young backcourt more will likely bring about more losses. As long as the the young core grows together, we should be ok. This winning streak, if anything, certainly shows the team that their hard work and the Silas offense can be successful.
Problem is, if that fails, you end up with the Deshaun situation. There's always those who won't get blackmailed.
this is genius!! and imho its more honest and less cheating than tanking @steddinotayto @Williamson @Jontro @Bobbythegreat Pls explain how is this any different than tanking?
