"Washed up" Chris Paul is the best clutch player in the NBA and will be in All-Star Game this year

And? This is about the playoffs. Not even half way through the season, lets see if CP3 can keep this pace and stay healthy.

 

Nah Nate had Giannis as his CLEAR pick and even went so far as to say Luka and Harden were neck and neck after that.

Danny had Harden, not as definitively as Nate had Giannis but his explanation was mainly that per minute Giannis is better but Harden plays soooo much more.

 

If that dude really wanted to win a title vs having a shot and getting his max meal money. He would have just signed as a free agent and not given up Sweet Lou, Pat Bev and Montrez. We would be been so deep and would have won the title.

 

Bucks win without Giannis, Rockets do not.

 

That would have been too unselfish. Imagine that depth plus Paul on one year vet min.

Wow.

 

yeah Nate is pretty much the Harden Haters Club President (and the Steph Curry Fan Club President). him saying anything nice about harden is pretty much never going to happen, and certainly not without some criticism thrown in. this guy literally put chris paul on his all-decade team over harden, which even admitted CP3 Fan Club President danny thought was insane. nate's reasoning? he's not sure you can win a title with james harden (danny had to explain how many rings cp3 has).

 

yeah definitely wanted his cake and to eat it, too.

 

Lol, wow, he really put Chris Paul over Harden? What a joke. Stuff like that along with them having the personality and charisma of a gym sock is why I stopped listening to that podcast months ago.

 

lol, another post talking without reading. He mentioned Paul is great in OKC and was great the first year in Rockets. I pointed out that he is playing same level as last season. now you started to talk about playoffs?

 

Obviously.... the Rockets have been a team about results in the playoffs for how many years in a row now?

 

Now he is eating cake in OKC and hoping for a trade to a contender. His fault. He chose Mone over winning.

 

Sounds like I need to start listening in to that podcast.

I love when people twist themselves into knots trying to discredit Harden.

 

He doesnt need to get a 1 year vet min he could have signed a reasonable deal with the Rox ie not a 4 year max deal given his age. Look at Capela signing for 16M a year, Rivers signing for vet min, House for 3M and EG for 18M. Now that's commitment to winning.


I always LOL at these jokers praising Cp3 now werent these the same guys calling Cp3 the most toxic contract in the NBA last year? Wasnt he the anchor around the Rox neck? Signing that close the Rox window? Cp3 plays great for less than half a season suddenly he is the most clutch player ever gimme a break.

 

objectively it’s an “okay” podcast. Nate is super boring to listen to and stutters constantly, but he does his homework and clearly loves the game. Danny is pretty good.

I used to love the SI podcast with Ben Golliver and Andrew Sharp, but that combination is gone for now

 

I will check it out, my go to podcast are Lowe Post and Bill Simmons but they have been lite on actual basketball talk so far this season.

 

I mean it is pretty blatantly obvious that the Rockets would be better with Chris Paul, and that doesn’t even account for the multiple assets given up as well.

Nobody can argue the Rockets are better with Westbrook until the Rockets actually are statistically better with him on the damn court.

 

It is also regretfully obvious that the Rockets would be much better off with Montrez Harrell, Pat Beverly, Lou Williams and other draft choices and assets given up along the way to get CP3 or Westbrick. All along we needed a real power forward. Still don't understand why our ownership and management doesn't get that.

 

It is is irrelevant what he is doing in the regular season bc we didn't trade him for his regular season expected performance. It was bc of him missing the most crucial part of the playoffs in his first year and not being able to get by anyone in the playoffs his second year. So I would say to most of us what he does in the regular season is meaningless

 

Exactly. Most of the people on this board were b****ing and moaning about CP3 last year. “It’s a terrible contract we will never get rid of” type stuff. Now these people are saying he’s an allstar again. Emotional mood swings like that are ridiculous.

I defended the signing back then because you can’t just let talent like him walk. If it worked out it would have been great. If not, I knew some team out there was going to want CP3 and his bloated contract. He’s a solid player last year and he’s a solid player now. He draws eyeballs. He wins some games. He’s a well known entertainer who makes the team money, which is really what the NBA is about.

Sure enough we were able to trade him. The same goes for Westbrook. We are not stuck with him. If this doesn’t work out, some team will want him for the same reasons some team wanted CP3. A “star” is better than no star. Hell, we were even able to trade brokeback Tmac years ago.

So back to CP3. He’s old and on the downside of his career. He’s not an allstar anymore. But he doesn’t suck either. He’s still a solid player. Let’s not romanticize Harden’s ex here though. He and Harden had issues and it was clear who had to go.

 

This may be true today, but it lacks context. The Rockets make that trade 100 times out of 100 because the Rockets became a truly historically good team because of the Chris Paul addition. They deserved a ring but injuries got in the way at the wrong time. They went from a good team to a great team because of that trade.

The Westbrook trade was a 1 for 1 flipping of players, where the Rockets downgraded and gave up assets to do so. Westbrook has yet to improve the team statistically. Just not justifiable at all.