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Was that the worst call in NFL history?

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by rolyat93, Sep 24, 2012.

  1. SwoLy-D

    SwoLy-D Member

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    This really wouldn't have made a difference had the Packers played like the champions they once were. But... they decided to play horribly, keep it close, and wait to blame it on someone other than themselves.

    The only people who are mad at this are the losing gamblers. :eek:

    If two players come down with the ball in a catch, and one is offense and the other one is defense, the OFFENSE keeps it. So?
     
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  2. justtxyank

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    Yes, we all know the NFL won't acknowledge he got the call wrong.

    The fact that the real replay ref screwed it up is just amazingly bad, though, and it proves that ItsMyFault was incorrect, and that play could be overturned/reviewed.
     
  4. K mf G

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    once the qb leaves the pocket they are considered a runner
     
  5. liljojo

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    But it did make a difference, because they didn't play like champions. They simply made just enough plays to win, but that win was stolen from them by a bad call.

    They are absolutely justified in blaming the refs for this one.
     
  6. juicystream

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    If I kept reading, I would have noticed there is an exception outside the pocket. However, a QB is not considered a runner just because he is outside the pocket. The QB has to be attempting to advance the ball as a runner to be considered a runner. Basically, unless he has the ball tucked or is beyond the line of scrimmage, he is most likely a passer.

    [rquoter]PASSER OUT OF THE POCKET
    (8) When the passer goes outside the pocket area and either continues moving with the ball (without
    attempting to advance the ball as a runner) or throws while on the run, he loses the protection of the
    one-step rule provided for in (1) above, and the protection against a low hit provided for in (5) above,
    but he remains covered by all the other special protections afforded to a passer in the pocket
    (numbers 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7), as well as the regular unnecessary-roughness rules applicable to all player
    positions. If the passer stops behind the line and clearly establishes a passing posture, he will then be
    covered by all of the special protections for passers.
    Penalty: For Roughing the Passer: Loss of 15 yards from the previous spot; disqualification if
    flagrant.
    Note 1: If in doubt about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactic on the quarterback, the Referee
    should always call roughing the passer.
    Note 2: See 8-6-2 for personal fouls prior to completion or interception.
    A.R. 12.21 Passer A1 is run into or tackled by defensive B1 after a pass. B1 had started his action prior to pass.
    Ruling: A legal action, unless the official rules that B1 had a reasonable chance to avoid or minimize the
    contact and made no attempt to do so.[/rquoter]
     
  7. justtxyank

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    But they do acknowledge that the ref got the call wrong, just not the one that everyone is saying he got wrong. What is the advantage to saying "Yes, the Packers got screwed on a blown call but it's not the blown call that everyone is scrutinizing, it's another one."

    Does it somehow make the NFL look better if the call that was wrong was the lack of pass interference being called when it was blatant?
     
  8. juicystream

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    The NFL is covering for itself. If they can explain away anything they will. When they can't remotely explain it, they admit to a mistake. The NFL is negotiating with the Refs, why admit publicly to multiple bad calls, which the game was filled with? Admit to one, and say oh well.
     
  9. ubigred

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    Bigger issue: the regular REPLAY booth officials agreed that it was a touchdown.....shameful
     
  10. justtxyank

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    The NFL is covering for itself by pointing to a different call as being egregious and costing a team a game? That makes it better?

    I really don't get the logic in that. The NFL has no reason to lie and say one call was good and then point out another one that cost the team the game.
     
  11. SwoLy-D

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    NEVER should you play a game close enough that an official's calls could dictate the outcome of the game. Play it as well as you can, outscore your opponents cleanly and do not let your opponents score, and if the referees mess up a call, it's not your fault. :eek: You won't have to worry about it.

    Who lost money on bets?
     
  12. justtxyank

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    The on the field replacement referee, the in the booth replay official and the NFL league office all agree it actually was a touchdown, or at least that it shouldn't have been overturned as one.

    The replacement refs are bad, but this call has nothing to do with them. You can justify getting the call wrong in real time speed. It's not replacement officials in the replay booth.

    I think the more egregious offenses being committed by these officials are the terrible calls/non-calls on pass interference and holding. These are the types of calls that people don't think of as changing a game unless they happen on the last play but in reality 5 bad holding calls a game is incredibly damaging.
     
  13. justtxyank

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    This is the stupid logic.

    Officials are there for a reason. The idea that you should play every game to such a level of perfection that the officials can't impact whether you win or lose if they make bad calls is absolutely silly.

    Sometimes games come down to the last play. Games can be hotly contested. It's the job of the referees to call the game correctly so that the right team wins. If a team is 2 points better than another team, they are still better. If a game is stolen from them by the referees blowing calls, that is wrong and it doesn't mean you should shake your head and say "should have been better!"
     
  14. SamFisher

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    I believe Tirico/Gruden/somebody incorrectly started perpetuating the "it's not reviewable!" myth last night via a random comment and it sort of took off from there.

    Probably got confused with the offensive pass interference (which isn't reviewable) from a spotter and the quote came out mucking hte whole thing up.
     
  15. justtxyank

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    Why would they have said it's not reviewable? All scores are automatically reviewed. Are they dumb?
     
  16. juicystream

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    Because they can't say he didn't push the other guy in the back.

    They want to deflect from the other part of the play, where the refs blew the call under the guise that it is rule interpretation.
     
  17. justtxyank

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    Why does it help them to deflect from one bad call to another when they admit that the wrong team won the game because of replacement officials missing a call?
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Everytime you bring up the "if not for the defender....he might have made a one handed catch like Randy Moss!" hypothetical argument, you acknowledge that he did not make the catch, either Randy Moss-style, or conventionally, in reality.
     
  19. SwoLy-D

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    SRSLY? We're talking about the SEATTLE SEAHAWKS (7-9 last year) and THE GREEN BAY PACKERS (MVP, 3rd best passing offense, second best offense all in 2011)...? Should it have even been close?

    Making such a huge issue out of nothing. :grin: How much money did you lose, man?
     

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