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Was Karl Rove the source of the Plame leak. . .

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2005.

  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Contributing Member

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    Are you in a positon to protect the country against rogue WMDs? If so, the only ones craven and stupid enough to ruin your career are sitting in the White House.
     
  2. giddyup

    giddyup Contributing Member

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    Was she the only one doing that kind of work? Perhaps she counts herself too valuable.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
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    What kind of argument is that? It isn't that she counts herself too valuable, it is that the CIA does.

    Is Bush the only person capable of the President. If he were to have a heart attack tomorrow could nobody else fill in and do the job? Maybe he counts himself too valuable.

    Your logic here is totally off the scale.
     
  4. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

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    Is there any real doubt that Armitage met with Woodward to discuss releasing information on Plame? I wonder if this will come out in the civil trial...
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    Woodward's former Post editor, Ben Bradlee, has speculated publicly that Armitage was the reporter's "likely source."
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    Calendars show Armitage met reporter

    The No. 2 State Department official met with Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward in mid-June 2003, the same time the reporter has testified that an administration official talked to him about CIA employee Valerie Plame.

    Official State Department calendars, provided to The Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act, show then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage held a one-hour meeting marked "private appointment" with Woodward on June 13, 2003.

    A person familiar with the information prosecutors have gathered, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because the material remains sealed, said Woodward's meeting with the confidential source was June 13, 2003.

    The calendar released to the AP is the first confirmation that Woodward and Armitage met during the key time in the CIA leak case that was the focus of Fitzgerald's probe.

    The identity of Woodward's source remains one of the big mysteries in the case because the Post reporter is the first member of the news media known to have discussed Plame's CIA employment with an administration official.

    Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President
    Dick Cheney, faces trial in January on charges that he lied to authorities about conversations he had with reporters about Plame.

    Libby's lawyer, William Jeffress, said Monday that Armitage's calendar only bolsters the defense's argument that information about the State Department official's role in the CIA leak affair should be released.

    "I would hope that the facts on that would come out," Jeffress said. "We have asked for information as to Woodward's source in discovery, but that has been denied."

    Armitage's calendar also shows that a week before Woodward's meeting with Armitage, the deputy secretary of state met for 15 minutes with Libby.

    That meeting occurred as State officials were about to prepare a report outlining how Plame's husband was sent to Niger before the Iraq war to check unverified intelligence that Iraq was seeking nuclear materials from Africa.

    full article
     
  5. adoo

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    it has been corroborated by Newsweek's Isokoff's story this week
     
  6. mc mark

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    Oh my....

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    McClellan stepped down from the position in May of 2006, and has since penned a book that will finally allow him to do what he never could as press secretary: tell all.

    Public Affairs, who will be publishing the book, has posted this excerpt, which gives one a helping of insight into how McClellan views his years of service:


    McClellan's book is titled What Happened, after the question he muttered to himself every night before the clutches of fitful sleep claimed him, and is scheduled for an April 2008 release.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/19/scott-mcclellan-grabs-a-s_n_73386.html
     
  7. KingCheetah

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    Boom goes the dynamite ~ unbelievable.
     
  8. basso

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    Yawn...Armitage has already said, multiple times he was the uber leaker, and "it was a stupid thing to do." odd that he's never been prosecuted.
     
  9. mc mark

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    And yet McClellan doesn't mention Armitage.

    odd indeed

    It'll be an interesting read.
     
  10. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

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    Do you think that McClellan is just doing this for money?
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    So no matter who started it, we know now that Bush lied about it over and over.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes the CIA usually has lots of people at the most highly classified jobs that aren't really needed. They have a lot of excess and duplicated covert operatives running fake companies which numerous agents in the field use as their cover. And all of those agents in the field are also not really needed even though they are undercover on the ground in the middle east full time, and were exposed once Plame could no longer act as if she were part of the front company.

    That is a highly likely scenario.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

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    I can't believe the libs are still chasing their fantasy on this one, after having been shamed all along the way. What a wasted effort by those who seek to divide America... the libs.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    You have a very strange definition of shamed. Somehow in your eyes the ones who inestigated and discovered crimes in the whitehouse as well as other actions which were immoral and contrary to national security in the whitehouse were ones that were shamed?
     
  15. jo mama

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    scott mcclellan is a "lib" now?
     
  16. Major

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    If you start with the premise that you can create your own facts, and that anyone who disagrees with your facts is a "lib", then yes of course. Does it surprise you, given the source?
     
  17. basso

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    well, duh!
     
  18. updawg

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    what the hell are you talking about?

    If they are not needed lets get rid of them. So was Bush just efficiently downsizing governent by outing her?
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    I was commenting on giddy's comment that maybe Plame's job wasn't really that important. My comments were sarcastic and geared to the idea that the CIA has undercover operatives weren't really that important, especially ones that specialized in weapons of mass destruction in the middle east.
     
  20. updawg

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    I guess I should of paid attention a little better to the sarcasm. My bad.
     

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