Our "turning point" in Iraq means we can now concentrate on making another disastrous error in Iran. Bush and the crew are pushing for a United Nations resolution for sanctions against Iran, an attempt to curb that nation's alleged nuclear ambitions. There is a lot of tough talk flying around, all of which is as substantial as smoke. China and Russia won't let any sanctions against Iran pass the Security Council, so the point of this quasi-diplomatic effort is difficult to find. The trouble, of course, is that nobody quite knows what Iran is up to. America had an intelligence network aimed at Iran's nuclear capabilities, but that network hasn't been in place for three long years. CIA agent Valerie Plame, you see, was the one running that network. Because her husband, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, had the temerity to publicly question the Bush administration's right to lie with impunity regarding the threat posed by Iraq, agent Plame was outed by the White House as punishment. In the three years since that happened, our knowledge of Iran's activities has devolved into a big black hole. It's a good thing for all of us this administration cares so much about our national security. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050206R.shtml
mark, it's one thing when you post an article from another site that actually attempts to make an intelligent arguement. but now you've devolved to a harangue by proxy methodology that seems utterly pointless. if you don't have anything original to add, why bother to post?
This article makes a very logical and intelligent argument. 1. Iran is working on enriching uranium. 2. Plame was working in this area before she was outed. 3. Because of Plame's outing, we do not know exactly what Iran is up to. Conclusion: Bush's political vendetta has damaged national security. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
so valerie plame was not working on iranian nuclear proliferation activities when she was outed by the white house?
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"working on iran" which is pure speculation, and "outed by the white house" which is just a kosian wet dream.
MSNBC confirms: Outed CIA agent was working on Iran David Shuster reported on Hardball today that: INTELLIGENCE SOURCES SAY VALERIE WILSON WAS PART OF AN OPERATION THREE YEARS AGO TRACKING THE PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS MATERIAL INTO IRAN. AND THE SOURCES ALLEGE THAT WHEN MRS. WILSON'S COVER WAS BLOWN, THE ADMINISTRATION'S ABILITY TO TRACK IRAN'S NUCLEAR AMBITIONS WAS DAMAGED AS WELL." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/
See the post above for confirmation on the Iran story. Libby admitted that he used Plame's name when he talked to reporters. That easily qualifies as "outing" and since Libby worked at the White House...
check shuster's record. i'm not sure i'd hang my hat on his reporting. "anonymous sources claim" is quite convenient. MOM came forward to expose the admin's tyranny, why are the rest of these analysts so timid?
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He doesn't have to be charged for it to be true. Occam's razor. Plame was working in the area of nuclear proliferation. She was undercover. Her name was used by a White House official in the context of working for the CIA. The name was put out to the world at large. All of Plame's nuclear proliferation work at that point went up in smoke. And you are somehow trying to claim that this didn't damage national security?
Plame was working in the area of Nuclear proliferation. Key word "was." when she stopped, no one knows, nor is it confirmed that was what she was doing when her name was published. She was undercover. again, "was." it is not establihsed she was under cover at the time of the WaPo article. Her name was used by a WH official in the contect of working for the CIA. not so. Novak, and woodward, said "an administration official. could be any one in the government. If you'll read Novak's article, he identifies the source as "not a partisan gunslinger", which hardly sounds like Libby or Rove. The name was put out to the world at large. When, and by Whom? her name seems to have been widely know among reporters much earlier than when Novak published it, and it was present on Joe Wilson's online bio well in advance od Novak's article. All of Plame's nuclear proliferation work went up in smoke. again, unproven. we don't know when her work ended, nor do we have a dmagae assesment from the CIA.
