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Warriors Feared Tax In Declining Trade For James Harden

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lookabove, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. lookabove

    lookabove Contributing Member

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    Could you imagine if Warriors actually made the trade and how good they could be?

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9030601/the-worst-contracts-nba

    "When Sam Presti decided to explore a trade of James Harden, his first call was reportedly to the Golden State Warriors.

    The Oklahoma City Thunder sought Klay Thompson and a pick for Harden.

    The Warriors only would explore a trade for Harden if the Thunder were willing to take back Andris Biedrins or Richard Jefferson for 2013 expiring contracts due to their concerns over the luxury tax for 2014.

    The Warriors would have luxury tax penalties had they kept those two players along with the first year of extensions to Harden, Stephen Curry and ongoing deals for Andrew Bogut and David Lee.

    Presti then discussed a deal with the Washington Wizards for Bradley Beal but was rebuked.

    The Warriors used their amnesty clause on Charlie Bell in order to slightly improve their offer sheet to DeAndre Jordan that was ultimately matched by the Clippers.

    The Thunder traded Harden to the Houston Rockets.
    Via Bill Simmons/ESPN"
     
  2. yunac010

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    Imagining a Curry/Harden backcourt right now... that would have been scary.
     
  3. tminusrex

    tminusrex Rookie

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    That's what they deserve for paying Richard Jefferson $10 million a year.
     
  4. holly1985

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    Yeah I said a few times that Harden and Curry would be a perfect natural duo.
     
  5. Aruba77

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    Everyone loves Klay Thompson
     
  6. J.R.

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    Warriors, Wizards lulz

    Thanks!
     
  7. RedDynasty

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    Haha. If they had gotten him, DAMN! But the fact is, James Harden is a Houston Rocket. He's our guy!
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    What a huge fail by the Warriors.
     
  9. Clutch

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    What pick was OKC asking for from Golden State? Only first rounder they have is a piggybacked 2015 first rounder after Utah gets their pick in 2013.

    Hard to believe Simmons here when Houston's offer was much better than that.
     
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    While we are on the topic of what if trades, can Clutch or any insiders let us know what was the other offer Morey had for Marcus Morris. Didn't Stein say Morey was considering two offers for MOrris? What was the other? I doubt anyone will ever know.
     
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    DAMN !! Curry and Harden would have been KILLING teams !
     
  12. BigBenito

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    So, they wanted the best player in the deal AND to trade away a bad contract?

    Jerry West must have thought he was talking to Memphis.
     
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    Being a GM is 85% luck and the rest preparation for when the basketball gods smile on you; the fact that Harden fell through 2 teams is a miracle.
     
  14. LiveEatSleepRox

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    I can probably see why the Wizards weren't willing to do a straight up Harden - Beal trade. Having Wall and Harden both trying to play heroball throughout the game would be downright catastrophic. It might look unbelievably good on paper, but would hinder the growth of both young and amazing players.
     
  15. BigBenito

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    Maybe Presti called before the draft? (So, the 7th?)

    There were unsubstantiated rumors of Harden to Charlotte for the 2nd to pickup Beal (Presti even worked Beal out), so it is a possibility OKC also called GS.
     
  16. lookabove

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    I would be hard press to imagine Presti wouldn't at last call all 3 team before making any deals.

    Klay Thompson already posted good rookie season at 2 position. He is 22 which fits with OKC youth. If factor in both youth and salary, why do you think Houston deal was that much better?

    Plus Martin contract is expiring and it's probably going to cost OKC quite a bit money to resign him while Thompson lock up for 3 mil a year for 3 more seasons (includes this one).
     
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    One way or the other we's some lucky-ass maggot farmers to have Harden. Harden is one of the top 5 talents in the NBA (LeBron, Durant, Rose when healthy...)
     
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    Can you explain hero ball too me?? I dont get it.

    Harden is the go-to player (franchise) on our team and prob top 5 in the league (in terms of getting by his defender). He is a willing passer and very good finisher in the paint. Very good FT shooter.

    So, in a close game how should he not get the ball to make a play either trying to score or drawing a double team to make a pass to a shooter? Is that what you call "hero ball"?

    He is a guy that can go for 30 on any given night and even then he will have 6-8 assists. I mean c'mon, how can you be mad at that considering our other options right now.
     
  20. lwlee

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    In hindsight, there's a lot of debate on OKC forums whether they should have traded Westbrook instead of Harden. But if we are thinking in hindsight, let's say OKC was able to keep Harden. Having all three in the starting rotation, alternating between Westbrook and Harden at SG/PG would have been just devastating. Even better, Westbrook becomes like a Rondo, let Harden and KD go into beast mode and have WB be a deadly 3rd option. They would have to be better, or at least equal to Miami.
     

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