By the way, I am a hyprocrite because I download, but I do believe they have the right to protect their music.
I didn't realize that playing a CD in your computer's CD drive was against the law. I don't recall that law being passed. Eventually, I suspect that record companies will simply make CDs that are completely unplayable on any system. That would sure solve any pirating problems. Heck, Sony should just make their discs so they only play on Sony consumer CD players. They could prevent copying that way. I don't have a problem with these companies coming up with technology that prevents copying (even if it prevents fair use copies), but I think they should either take the time to make sure their anti-copying scheme isn't harmful for users or at least upgrade their warning labels to properly warn people.
I recently purchased a CD by a member of the St.Lunatics (Nelly's group) Ali and popped it in my computer to find that it wouldn't play. ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET AROUND THIS??? It won't let me do anything with it and I go and click on it in D:/ drive and it shows me an auto run. I click on that and it takes me to the nellyville.net site and says I unlocked some bonus tracks from the New Nelly CD. WHAT THE HELL??? But, I put it in my CD player/Boombox and it works fine. It's made by Universal Records by the way. Oh yeah, I have CloneCD but my version is expired. Anyone know where I can get the new one?
How are you breaking the law by copying the CD to your hard drive for your own use? It is the same principle as copying it to a cassette tape for your personal use.
I too doubt this will happen, especially on a large-scale basis. If I bought a CD without knowing it was poisoned and tried to make a copy of it...and it damaged my Plextor CD-RW drive....I would be one angry dude.
Question: Is it considered "fair use" to create a cd compilation of various songs from different artists, so long as you fairly purchased all of the albums? I do that all the time...
Ok, I must agree, the argument doesn't make sense if you are not planning on copying the CD and you get burned ( no pun intended)...... But we all know what the truth is. Everybody is copying and distributing the music. Almost everyone is guilty. As Forest Gump would say, I don't know much, but I know what is right and wrong. What is happening is so wrong. Sometimes each individual must pay the cosequences for another person's actions. That's the case here. We all know what is happening. And we all know it's just plain wrong. Don't we? I know some of you want to justify it, but I just don't buy into the argument that they have been railing you on the price for years. That's not fair. Ya know what is funny, Charles Dickens always used to get mad at the USA because we didn't have copywright laws. People were printing his stories with their name on it, but their was nothing he could do. He used to get so mad.
I don't distribute music from my CDs. I have ripped them to my hard drive (which is legal, by the by) on occasion, but I don't do file sharing. As a matter of fact, the people I know personally do not do file sharing. I think it's a little accusatory to say that "everyone" does it. The Supreme Court has ruled that consumers have the right to copy protected work for their personal use. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be upset when a right they have is taken away from them, even when that right can conflict with the rights of these companies. It's certainly a slippery slope. How long before we can no longer record television programs for future viewing (because video will be the next battle ground)? How long before all those computer DVD drives become unable to watch DVD movies? At what point do the rights of the consumers get thrashed enough so that people can be upset?
Actually, I firmly believe the record companies are railing us when it comes to price. If I honestly thought Metallica was going to starve because some teenager - or even a hundred thousand - may have once downloaded Enter Sandman, I'd say yes stop people from doing it, and now. But I seriously doubt it. Not when I have to pay 80 bucks for one ticket to Ozzfest.
The Supreme Court has ruled that consumers have the right to copy protected work for their personal use. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be upset when a right they have is taken away from them, even when that right can conflict with the rights of these companies. We have the right to copy it -- but the CD companies are under no obligation to make it easy on us. Personally, I have no problem with the no-copy setup -- if someone doesn't like it, they don't have to buy that CD. I am curious about the "destroying the CD Drive" thing, though -- that, obviously, is a completely different situation if its even possible.
It is. Check out the Apple links someone posted in the thread. Those are to Knowledge Base articles, where Apple addresses the situation. 'Destroying', not necessarily, but it causes problems. There are even lists available on the net talking about CDs that do this to the Imac. From the link: TITLE Mac OS: Cannot Eject Copy Protected Audio Disc, Computer Starts Up to Gray Screen Article ID: 106882 Created: 4/29/02 Modified: 5/9/02 TOPIC You may be unable to eject certain copy-protected audio discs, which resemble Compact Discs (CD) but technically are not. Some computers start up to a gray screen after a copy protected disc has been left in the computer DISCUSSION Symptom 1. You insert an audio disc, which is not recognized by the computer. 2. The audio disc will not eject. 3. The computer starts up to a gray screen when the disc is in the optical drive. Products affected Any Macintosh computer with an optical drive capable of accepting CD-ROM audio discs. The following discs are known to use the copy protection: Shakira: "Laundry Service" Jennifer Lopez: "J To Tha L-O!" Celine Dion: "A New Day Has Come"
Actually, I agree with you, but I can also understand why people would be upset, especially if CDs that are unplayable in CD-ROM drives become more widespread.
Ok, if the PRAM on the Mac is set to check to see if there's a bootable CD-ROM in the drive, you could have a disk that appears bootable, but then runs some sort of loop, but... all you have to do is eject the freaking CD with a paperclip and reboot. Sheesh! Mac users need for hand-holding never stops amazing me.
I was thinking the exact same thing, that in someway the affected (or infected) CD makes the Mac think that its bootable and sits there doing nothing, or like you said going through a loop. As for getting the CD out... they must be kidding, they didn't think to do this?!?
From that same article: How to Remove the disc You may try one of these workarounds for ejecting the disc: Mouse button 1. Restart the computer. If necessary, use the reset/interrupt button. 2. Immediately after the system startup sound, press and hold the mouse button. Continue to hold the mouse button until the computer is finished starting up. This technique may force the disc to eject. Force Mac OS X startup If Mac OS X is installed on the computer, try these steps. 1. Restart the computer. If necessary, use the reset/interrupt button. 2. Immediately after the system startup tone, press and hold the "X" key. Continue to hold the key until the computer is finished starting up. 3. Open iTunes or DVD Player (both located in the Applications folder). 4. Click the Eject button in either of these applications. This forces the computer to start up in Mac OS X. Attempt to eject the disc using the eject button in iTunes or DVD Player. Manual eject hole Attempt to locate the manual eject hole on the optical drive. The hold is sized for a paper clip and is located on the insertion side of the device. Some computers, such as the iMac (Flat Panel), Power Mac G4 Cube, and certain models of Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver or later), may not have a user-accessible eject hole. Open Firmware 1. Restart the computer. If necessary, use the reset/interrupt button. 2. Immediately after the system startup tone, press and hold the Command-Option-O-F key combination. The computer starts up to a text-only screen, indicating that you are in Open Firmware. 3. At the prompt, type: eject cd 4. Press Return. 5. Type: mac-boot 6. Press Return
