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[War with Iran] Not a matter of IF but WHEN

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by BlastOff, Aug 3, 2006.

  1. wnes

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    Will this make blazer_ben excited or nervous?
     
  2. mc mark

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    The neocons' next war

    By secretly providing NSA intelligence to Israel and undermining the hapless Condi Rice, hardliners in the Bush administration are trying to widen the Middle East conflict to Iran and Syria, not stop it.

    By Sidney Blumenthal


    Aug. 3, 2006 | The National Security Agency is providing signal intelligence to Israel to monitor whether Syria and Iran are supplying new armaments to Hezbollah as it fires hundreds of missiles into northern Israel, according to a national security official with direct knowledge of the operation. President Bush has approved the secret program.

    Inside the administration, neoconservatives on Vice President Dick Cheney's national security staff and Elliott Abrams, the neoconservative senior director for the Near East on the National Security Council, are prime movers behind sharing NSA intelligence with Israel, and they have discussed Syrian and Iranian supply activities as a potential pretext for Israeli bombing of both countries, the source privy to conversations about the program says. (Intelligence, including that gathered by the NSA, has been provided to Israel in the past for various purposes.) The neoconservatives are described as enthusiastic about the possibility of using NSA intelligence as a lever to widen the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah and Israel and Hamas into a four-front war.

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2006/08/03/mideast/?source=whitelist
     
  3. ROXRAN

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    thanks for posting the good news. Thank GOD for leaders who prioritize protecting ourselves and allies in the fight against Islamic Facism...
     
  4. R0ckets03

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    You think there wouldn't be any fuss about Africa (oil and civil wars), South America (oil and drugs) and China (everything)?

    Middle East is just the current flavor of the month.
     
  5. blazer_ben

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    The solution to the iran crisis is to impower the people of iran. they'll takeout the mollahs if they could.
     
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    The best solution by far, and I believe the majority of Iranians would like to see a change in their government. They may have to take to the streets, and take down the theocracy, in the same way the Shah was taken down. It would be bloody. Do they have the will, the courage? Are they being helped from the outside?

    I wish them luck. They need it, and they need to hurry.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  7. blazer_ben

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    Iranians despite there abslout despise and hate for the mollahs wont tolerate an foreign invasion. the iranian people with moral support from from goverments can takeout the mollahs. no foreign intervention is the answer.
     
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    Absolutely...what a shame to have this type of goverment bestowed on a lot of good people there.
     
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    The Courage factor is a Non-issue, the brave iranian students have shown there courage over and over. they've protested before and will continue again if they'll have to. what they need is money. logistics and etc. they'll need support.
     
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    Jimmy carters continues support for khomenie created this mess. the CIA in the first days of the revolution was funding and impowering the islamic fascits left and carter. the peanut farmer destroyed a generation and created the first goverment sponserd terrorisim. make no mistake, khomenie created the mess we are seeing.
     
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    I think the NeoCons are trying to usher in a clash of civilizations. They're probably big fans of Samuel P. Huntington.
     
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    A new TNT original movie, coming in October.
     
  17. A_3PO

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    War with Iran won't happen. In 5-15 years the world will accept the fact they will get nukes. Simple as that. When they have them, Iran will not use them to attack Israel or another country. This may sound strange, but Iran is a much more responsible country than people think. It cannot be compared to Cuba, North Korea or Iraq.

    The main thing they want is respect and influence. They want countries like the U.S, Israel, etc to respect their right to be nuclear; just take a look at India. They also want to be the dominate influential player in the Middle East, especially over the Sunni Arab countries. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc are scared to death of this development, which seems inevitable to me. Iran's ascension to that level would inspire the Shia populations in Arab countries in more ways than one.

    An aerial attack by the U.S. or Israel on Iran's nukes would likely fail and would ignite an era of political and economic instability around the world nobody wants. Our best hope is that Iran will slowly loosen the reigns domestically and some of the sharper edges come off diplomatically over the next 5-10 years. If attacked from the outside, Iran will condense into a nationalistic grenade and explode on everyone. The fallout would make our Iraq disaster look like small.
     
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    You speak as if the leaders of the governments of the countries involved on all sides are rationally thinking people. I have serious doubts at this point.
     
  19. BlastOff

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    There were reports over the weekend that Iran has been aiding Hezbollah in their current war with Israel. The US has already accused it of aiding the insurgency in Iraq.

    I hope that you are right and I am simply overestimating the US' willingness to engage them. I guess we'll see after the UN's deadline has passed and sanctions begin.
     

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