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[WaPo] Kodak to produce pharmaceutical ingredients with U.S. government loan

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jul 29, 2020.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    Yikes, I have read about shifty generics from China polluting out supply chain and calling to question whether the FDA should implicitly trust them. Didn't know their share of the market was overblown.
     
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  2. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm glad Navarro is doing his job but also if he and the other parts of the Admin had done more due diligence early instead of rushing this this might've been avoided.
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Bro i don't know what you're trying to say and dont know why why you hate capitalism.

    That being said we live in a global economy where capitalism rules and why companies move

    And i rhymed

    China is becoming more capitalist and thats what makes them our main competitor
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    Just because he is not being investigated for inside trading does not mean he is free of corruption, he should not be picking winners and losers.
     
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  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Nobody knows what his motivation was. That being said nothing appears malicious or corrupt. Its a throw in on the story
     
  6. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Oh my god with the whole you're critical of something so you must hate it simpleton logic.

    I don't like full blown capitalism because it is a race to bottom that creates incredible wealth inequality and gives corporations an inordinate amount of power. It also creates a fake sense of competition as every country has a sliding scale of laws impacting labor, environmentalism, and corruption.
     
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  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The sooner the US realizes the economy is global the better. There's no turning back. If Mexicans cant come here GM will just move the plant to Mexico. They already did 40 years ago. The anti-globalists are living in the past
     
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  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I never supported full blown capitalism.
     
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    I hear that. Trying to find a balance has been very elusive.
     
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  10. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Oh lord. You are raving about capitalism while embracing socialism. Embracing Democracy while raving about Chinese communists. Raving about Democracy while embracing no borders capitalism..
    You’re a free trader but admit government has a role to play in curbing free trade.

    You support capitalism as a free trader and the free flow of goods but you don’t support the lax labor, business, and environmental laws that allow for free trade and the free flow of goods? Why don’t you just be clear what you support.
     
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  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I support whatever works. China has to manage 3x as many people as America in the same amount of space. What works here doesn't work there
     
  12. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    So you’re good as long as Anarchism, Fascism, Marxism, and/or Communism “work”? What is your definition of works? You’ve said previously as long as there’s democracy and capitalism, you’re good. What if that doesn’t work?

    What is it about democracy and capitalism that doesn’t work with 3x the American population?
     
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  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Where fp anarchism WORKING?
     
  14. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You said you’d support whatever works without defining works so your question is premature.

    You’ve made a flurry of possibly contradictory claims,
     
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  15. rocketsjudoka

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    Pgabriel I'm sure can answer for himself but weighing in here as someone who believes in free trade.

    I don't deny that there are big problems with globalization. I've seen sweatshops, pollution and deforestation first hand in countries like PRC, Indonesia and Malaysia but I've also seen how in several countries the standard of living has rapidly improved. Singapore in 1965 was a backwater and was behind the Philippines in development. It went through a phase of sweatshops and now is one of the most technologically advanced countries and also one of the greenest. SK and Taiwan are the similar. Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam aren't that far behind. In the cases of SK, Taiwan and Thailand development has also led political reforms and those countries are now democracies after having been authoritarian one party states for decades. This benefits the US as globalization isn't a one way street or a zero sum game. While basic manufacturing in the US has been hurt as companies relocated first to places like Taiwan and Singapore and now to Vietnam and the PRC as these countries develop they are becoming markets for the US. As we saw during the trade war US farmers can't really survive just selling to a domestic market. At the same time there are even as capital flows towards Asia it has also come back to the US as much Asian countries invest in the US market but more importantly help to support our credit markets.

    There is another factor to globalization that isn't talked about much but I think is very important. With all of the interconnections between economies it is more dangerous to go to war as even a conventional war would economically be mutually assured destruction. Consider that the PRC has border disputes with almost all its neighbors, in the meantime SK has border disputes with Japan, Singapore has disputes with Malaysia and Indonesia, nearly every Asian country has a dispute with some other Asian country. While there have been conflicts such as what happened in Ladakh last month there has been no all out war in East or SE Asia since the 70's. Part of the reason is that these countries realize that war with a major trading partner will be devastating economically. So while Vietnam doesn't like the PRC over the South China Sea they are still major trading partners. The US obviously has a lot of geopolitical interest in Asia and fought three wars in East Asia but as long as all those countries stay relatively peacefully we don't have to commit a lot of resources and lives to defending allies and other interest in an East or SE Asian hot war. Even as we benefit from the economic development of that region.
     
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  16. pgabriel

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    If i tell you what i support don't tell me what i really think

    So let's back up off your stupidity. Regardless i didn't claim anarchism anachronism anywhere. All i ask was why do you hate capitalism. I don't have a problem with most government programs. I never said free markets should rule over everything

    For the most part the Chinese like their government.
     
  17. CometsWin

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    So, as long as there’s democracy and capitalism you’re good but for the most part you support everything including potentially democracy, anarchy, dictatorship, fascism, Marxism, capitalism, communism, socialism, or any other form of economy or government as long as it works without defining what works? Correct me if I’m wrong. Tell me what you really think. You’re a free trader but free markets shouldn’t rule? Can you explain then what makes you a free trader?
     
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  18. pgabriel

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    Where does anarchy work? Stop asking that dumb **** and ill take your question seriously. The Chinese are happy. Why would i caee what they do?

    They don't need our help
     
  19. CometsWin

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    Where does anything work? You refuse to define what works.

    Here, without anarchism.

    So, as long as there’s democracy and capitalism you’re good but for the most part you support everything including potentially democracy, dictatorship, fascism, Marxism, capitalism, communism, socialism, or any other form of economy or government as long as it works without defining what works? Correct me if I’m wrong. Tell me what you really think. You’re a free trader but free markets shouldn’t rule? Can you explain then what makes you a free trader?
     
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  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    @CometsWin

    Working= citizens happy. Self sufficient

    You sound like a Reagan/Cheney war hawk. Ready8
    Are the chinese happy? Do they need the world to feed them? Then it works
    Saying that for the second time. You're not listening. You're trying to prove a point.
     

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