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Wanted: Player(s) who can change the team's culture

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RV6, Nov 24, 2010.

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  1. DaDakota

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    Before the Lakers got Gasol, weren't they 42-40?

    Was Kobe not a good player then?

    DD
     
    #21 DaDakota, Nov 24, 2010
  2. yao2kmart

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    Bring Back JVG!!
     
    #22 yao2kmart, Nov 24, 2010
  3. yaomingyaoming

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    Basketball is not that complicated. Shoot the ball. Defend. And play hard. Kobe thinks he's the Anthony Robbins of basketball. If Kobe made good on his threat to leave LA, say to a Memphis or Toronto, do you really think he would've won a championship? It's because he has All-Stars like Gasol on his team that he's won anything.
     
    #23 yaomingyaoming, Nov 24, 2010
  4. BetterThanEver

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    So to change the team's culture to a championship level, we need to trade for Kobe, Duncan, or Pierce. That's never gonna happen.
     
    #24 BetterThanEver, Nov 24, 2010
  5. yaomingyaoming

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    What did Brooks prove last year? 42-40 record proves nothing. His deficiencies are being exposed badly this season. Brooks can't defend, can't run the offense, can't rebound, can't block, doesn't know how to play "smart" basketball, can't stop anyone. But he can score points but not in crunch time.

    Watch...Brooks is going to depend a big fat contract, and Morey will trade his azz.
     
    #25 yaomingyaoming, Nov 24, 2010
  6. yaomingyaoming

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    Typo: demand, not depend.

    Watch...Brooks is going to demand a big fat contract, and Morey will trade his
     
    #26 yaomingyaoming, Nov 24, 2010
  7. RV6

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    Basketball isn't that easy either. Not when you go through 82 games and then have to play best out of 7 every round in the playoffs. On any givent night, anyone in the league can beat anyone else. It can come down to pure talent, hustle, rest, etc on one night. To be consistently good and be the last one standing it takes much more and extends beyond the basketball court.

    And let's not make this about kobe. What he said makes perfect sense and applies to at least one of the top players of every team that's won a ring for at least the last 15 years. This just happens to be his quote, but it applies to to players on less talented teams like the Spurs also. Of course there's no denying you need enough talent and not just the right team culture to win it all, but you also can't win it all with just significant talent. You need both and right now we're closer in overall talent than the other area.
     
    #27 RV6, Nov 24, 2010
  8. leebigez

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    They actually had the best record in basketball, then bynum goes down. They lost 2 in a row and kupchak made the deal. He said on sirius that if they didn't make that deal, he felt they were going to miss the playoffs.
     
    #28 leebigez, Nov 24, 2010
  9. TheGreat

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    Gerald Wallace is a good player but he is very lazy.
     
    #29 TheGreat, Nov 24, 2010
  10. BradMiller

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    Dat foo koby b outta hiz mihn

    ^English
     
    #30 BradMiller, Nov 24, 2010
  11. yaomingyaoming

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    You're the one who's made this about "KOBE" by quoting his self-aggrandizing philosophical pseudo comparisons to Michael Jackson. Kobe is living in his own delusional world, but he is right in that he is border line psychotic.

    Kobe would not have won anything without Gasol, Bynum, or Ron Artest. The NBA is about talent, and also about a blue collar work ethic/drive/champion heart, blah blah blah. You need both. It's very simple.

    If you put Kobe on the Toronto team, he doesn't sniff at a championship.
     
    #31 yaomingyaoming, Nov 24, 2010
  12. Sanity2disChaos

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    It starts where that thing beats in your chest.Without that you can hang it up.................A few players I think could change this teams culture:


    stephen Jackson
    Iggy
    Wallace (BOBCATS)
    j-smoove
    Nash
    Dare I say .....Landry

    Then if we can somehow attain a few (2-3) first round picks and we got something.

    (This upcoming draft is deep with guards...Duke,N.Carolins,UConn,Memphis and Kentucky have a few studs playing the guard position)

    IT IS WRITTEN.
     
    #32 Sanity2disChaos, Nov 24, 2010
  13. RV6

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    This is about how his quote relates to the current state of the team, not about kobe's career or anything you may not like about him. I picked it because his quote makes perfect sense and not because it's something the "great Kobe bryant" said.

    I've already stated you need both. Putting Kobe on another team or talking about the help he's had is irrelevant to my point. It's about the attitude he brings to that team. Yes, without help he doesnt win, but do they win without Kobe's attitude or with Kevin Martin's instead? Again, you need both and the rockets only have one. Just because it's simple to realize it or say it doesnt mean it's simple to go out there and have it.
     
    #33 RV6, Nov 24, 2010
  14. Kwame

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    RV6, does this mean you are now going to criticize Battier or can your hero do no wrong?
     
    #34 Kwame, Nov 24, 2010
  15. RV6

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    If you can't discuss the actual topic like an adult, then i suggest you don't post inside this thread. While your world revolves around all things battier, there's actually some of us out in the real world trying to discuss ROCKETS BASKETBALL.
     
    #35 RV6, Nov 24, 2010
  16. yaomingyaoming

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    People like you need to get banned becuase you are intentionally spreading lies. Yao Ming was there for 12 of those 22 games. Without Yao, you don't have 22 games, you have 10 games. Shut up already. I can't stand you Yao haters.
     
    #36 yaomingyaoming, Nov 24, 2010
  17. Kwame

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    So is that a yes or a no to my original question?

    Lol, I'm also pretty sure you have more posts dedicated to Battier than I do...apparently you criticize him in some of those posts, but are unwilling to provide us with evidence even though you say those posts exist.
     
    #37 Kwame, Nov 25, 2010
  18. MadMax

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    i think you completely missed he was paying Yao a huge compliment by comparing his impact on this team's to Kobe's on the Lakers.
     
    #38 MadMax, Nov 25, 2010
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    Bring Deke back , as a assistant coach, who basicly just huddles with the players and we'll be fine.
     
    #39 Felece, Nov 25, 2010
  20. RV6

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    Of course i have more posts about battier than you. I also have more posts about brooks, scola, hill, miller, ish, martin...should i keep going? Face it, your Clutchfans experience begins and ends with Battier. I'm not even sure you were ever a Rockets fan.


    Seems like a great idea, but then i think about how Deke would sound in a huddle :grin: but I wouldn't mind seeing him more in the front row just cheering the team on....
     
    #40 RV6, Nov 25, 2010
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