He establishes his pivot foot just fine. The only problem is he drags his pivot foot ever so slightly in video 1 and 4, but it's barely noticeable. That's almost never called. Several more egregious traveling violations that are no-calls occur during the course of an NBA game. I mean, by the strictest interpretation, Olajuwon travelled about 10 times a game. The third clip is a LEGAL play. He clearly establishes his right foot as the pivot foot after picking up his dribble. He adds a nifty up and under move while keeping his right foot planted. Not sure why you think that's traveling.
On the third play, it looks like he does a little jump-stop into the lane. He jumped off one foot after dribbling, landing in the lane on both feet. That's fine. But then he proceeded to do the step-through, which is not legal after a jump-stop.
Actually, I think it is the opposite. If WZZ was a 7' white scrub, he might still be a 10th man on some NBA team. I agree that he sucks. But he is no worse than some 7' stiff in the league. If those footage were Yao's you guys would be saying wow.
Actually they are not travels, he implements the lost art form of "pivot foot". I hear its quite popular in European countries. Often its tied to being "fundamental". Something not know in the States.
Its called a 1 2 stop, whatch his feet. they dont come down at the same time. his first foot to land becomes his pivot foot. As a basketball coach its nice to watch. Do I think he is a world beater, no, these are highlites, heck Sam Bowie could look like an all star if you watched his highlites.
Lets get a certified ref in here. Its NOT a travel, those are legitimate post moves. And sexy post moves at that. Yall just dont see that around the NBA anymore. Once again he isnt very good, doesnt play big, but give him some credit. Id like to see more 7fters pushing their footwork to new limits.
dude he traveled. he changed pivot foot . .give it a rest.. and the man SUCKS.. WANG SUCKS.. and obviously some of you out there would like to suck wang.. . cuz he just plain out sucks. and wouldnt help a team much at all
He's had his chances to be a 10th man, the proof is in the pudding. He shoots 42% from the field, which is just terrible for a big man. He's also a subpar rebounder and an absolute nonfactor as a shot blocker. So you've got a jump shooting, nonrebounding center who adds nothing in terms of defense. A 7 footer who plays like he's 6'3", meaning he doesn't take advantage of his height to any meaningful benefit. You can't play him as an effective backup to Yao, and he'd get absolutely killed defensively by most 4s. In short, I can't believe that NBA teams aren't beating a path to his door.
At this point I'm just curious. It's legal to dribble, take one step, spin off of it, and come to a stop with two different steps? So this 1 2 stop is basically equivalent to the jump stop in that it only counts as one step? I'm no coach or anything, but I haven't heard of this. I've always heard that if you take a step, then jump, then you have to land with both feet at the same time for it to not be a travel.
this is crazy lol, i didn't know that chinese national team can play fast break better than the current rockets.
It's not a jump stop. Look closely: He planted his right foot during his last dribble (that's the pivot foot). The right foot stays on the ground as he spins towards the lane and does the up fake (pivot foot doesn't change). Keeping his right foot on the ground, he ducks under the defender for the layup. He never changed his pivot foot. That's a perfectly legal play and you see it all the time from good offensive players. Watch clips of Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, or Kevin McHale -- they probably did it the best.
The question is, If Wang travelled, why the referees never called it?? How many times we see Lebron, even Jordan, plaming but never get called??? The quality of nba referees is among the worst in the sports. Dont give me this excuse the games is moving too fast, these guys(shaq and yao) are too big so it is difficult to officiate. This is their job, do it well!!!!
I am always amazed by how knowledgable some of the posters on this site are about the game and the rules. That's what really separates this site from the other ones on the net. Anyway, back to the topic. I don't have the knowledge like the other posters in this thread about the travelling rules. But my speculation is that if you watch every scoring play in the NBA in slow motion, at least 30% of which the scorers have travelled before putting the ball into the hole.
Trust me, I've watched closely. I don't think you're accurately describing the play. Let's run through the whole thing to make sure we're watching the same thing: he dribbles at the top of the key, takes two steps, left then right. He dribbles again, steps with the left, spins off that left foot, and lands, right foot first (pivot foot) followed by the left. The key is that he takes that step with the left foot after his second dribble, then his two feet come down at different times. Compare it to a drop-step post move. There a player with his back to the basket can dribble, take the drop step (establishing the new pivot foot) and then swing around with the other foot. That's essentially two steps. Wang's move in play 3 is similar to that, except he takes the initial step with his left foot after the dribble, followed by essentially two more steps.
Technically, yeah you can. However, the moment you pick up your pivot foot, you CAN NOT put it back down. That implies a pivot foot change. You're right that Wang is travelling though. He's putting his pivot foot back down on the last two highlights.
to answer your first question about the one two stop, yes it is legal. the jump stop establishes both feet as the pivot foot, the only thing you can do after taking a step and jump stopping is jump off both feet for a shot, pass. With the one two stop, the first foot to hit the ground instantly becomes your pivot foot. just like the jump stop, since both feet hit the ground at the same time they are the pivot foot. the first foot to hit is your pivot foot. since there is a pivot foot, not feet established you are allowed to pivot and also jump, as long as you jump off both feet or the pivot foot. just not the non pivot foot. . . . You get 1 1/12 steps, when he makes the first step or goes into the one two stop that is his first step, he establishes his right foot as the pivot foot. He then Pivots off of that foot for the up and under, the key here is that he jumps off two feet to complete the move that is his half step, to jump is a half step. Now if he had picked up his pivot foot before his left foot or non pivot foot left the ground it would be traveling, because he would be establishing his left foot as the pivot foot. Going into the move, even if he was pivoting on his left foot to begin, he still had one and a half steps, so he could have pulled an up and under at the beginning of the play and stepped through it and jumped off his right foot. I hope that’s not too confusing Seriously, if you truly understand how to use a pivot foot it can add so much to your game
