Walsh Traded Picks After Receiving Inside Information On Free-Agency?

Visit all they want but it is certainly unverifiable. The knicks will never tell and since Tellem won't squeal if he already made a deal with his client, J Johnson to the Knicks.

The key is if you see JJ sign straight up with the Knicks for the MAX available without a sign and trade then it is a good bet something was done before. Most max deals go sign and trade.

And if Lebron follows then there is no question all was agreed upon before.

Personally I think JJ is a done deal and Lebron is a maybe if you get JJ or Bosh kind of deal.

 

I only disagree with the late July (if he's not re-signing with Cavs) as that would make the 'two-super star' signing too dodgy.

Is LBJ's destination totally secret to all? Is Nike driving the decision? Walsh and DM the GM and their peers know lots and lots, what agents don't talk to each other? Who would be d-u-m enuff to talk to the media?

 

Did Walsh know ahead of time? I wouldn't go that far, but I think he's confident at least one good player will sign with the knicks. Why go to battle thinking you're going to lose? He had a plan and that was to sign two big free agents this summer. He's done the hard work, clearing the roster. Now he just needs to convince the players to play in new york

 

Johnson said he doesn't want to play for a loser team. Truly, which star wants to play for this Knicks, having not better alternatives but MUCH better alternatives?

 

If the cap comes in at the projected 53-54 million then here is the Knicks best case scenario

PG Toney Douglas
SG Joe Johnson (just under max contract)
SF Lebron
PF Gallo
C Eddy Curry

Bench

SF Wilson Chandler
PG min player
SG min player
PF min player
C min player
another min player
2nd round pick
3 D-Leaguers


Unless Walsh knows that he can get JJ and other good vets for min contracts then I don't see how or why Lebron signs in NY for much less money.

 

I won't put David Lee on a pedestal and call him the messiah or anything, but the guy's been a consistent top of the league PF for 2 years now. He was an all star this year. He's averaging 20, 12, 3.5 assists, 1 steal and half a block a game. He's never in his career shot worse the 54.9% from the field. He shoots mid 70's or better free throws.

The point. They already have 1 max level player on their team and they're horrible. Even if they could sign Lebron and Joe Johnson or Lebron and Chris Bosh, they'd lose David Lee and basically have no other assets other than Gallinari. They have no draft pick. They'd have little extra room to sign additional free agents. Could they make the playoffs in the East - probably, but as a low seed. It'd be like doing what the Celtics did, except the Celtics kept Piece and had a big three, and had imo a more important young piece in Rando AND were able to surround their 3 stars with solid veteran talent (James Posey, Kendrick Perkins, Sam Cassell, PJ Brown, Eddie House, Leon Powe.

I'm not saying the Knicks couldn't do it. But again, keep in mind, they have no draft pick this offseason (goes to Jazz), will have the lesser of two draft picks next offseason (between theirs and the Rockets), and won't have a draft pick the following offseason (goes to Rockets), they won't have many other pieces already on their roster (again, basically just Gallinari), and they won't have a ton of room other than veteran's minimum to find starter 4, 5, bench player 1, 2, and 3, etc.

Now, if they did get a Lebron and Bosh or Joe Johnson, at least Cleveland and Toronto or Atlanta would automatically be worse, which would help the Knicks. But you're still talking about a middle of the road playoff team at best for the foreseable future. Why would that be attractive to Lebron, Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh....ESPECIALLY considering they'd have to take less money??

 

I heard back in the 90's that there are people who aren't agents and don't represent anyone who serve as conduits of information from agents to GMs. Don't know if this was/is true, but it was a supposed way to get around tampering.

 

even if this is true, stern won't do anything about it. what? he gets the biggest name in the game to go to the biggest city in the game? and he's going to complain?

we'll all know when summer comes around. but let's be real: lebron/wade/bosh all know their plans this summer. and the other stars (joe/amare) have backup plans just in case.

if lebron does indeed go to the knicks, expect another superstar go there.

but NY will sign someone big this summer. we just have to pray lebron/wade/bosh won't go there.

 

they have to renounce his rights to sign 1 max and 1 slightly less than max player with a cap of 53-54 million.

 

the nba is the shadiest sketchiest league in all of sports with david stern leading the charge

so it surprises me not that ny have some underground beneficial information regarding this offseason

scrub ass stern

 

Yeah, to congratulate them. Stern will do anything to ensure LA, NY and Boston at the top of the heap. I'm surprised he didn't put out a hit on Isaiah.

 

Well, I know for a fact that Carlos Boozer's "people" called the Grizz prior to free agency to try and get them interested so he could opt out but we already had the ZBo deal arranged. So the Knicks probably are aware of who will sign with them (Im guessing Bron and Bosh) and I also think the other FAs are spoken for already for the most part.

 

i dont buy this for one minute. how could a guy play his heart out for his hometown team basically knowing hes already told ny folks hes leaving.

 

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also not to mention he would be walking into a situation where they arent gunna be immediate contenders. i just dont think it makes a whole lot of sense. you dont move around the league if you want to be the next "jordan". how many teams did mj play for? exactly.

 

Hardly. The NBA and David Stern rigged the 1985 draft to "bring basketball back to New York City" so I don't think they would catch the knicks using inside info. I wish the NBA was fair. The only way we ever have a chance of winning is by having the best GM and owner in sports.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mN3OGRGybA

 

I know I'll get flack for this, but David Stern wasn't happy we flopped to get The Dream in 1984. He's an avid knicks fan who fixed the 2002 WCF against our coach Adelman with the Kings against the Lakers. They even did it to the Rockets in 2005 versus the Mavs. Everyone can say Donaghy can't be trusted, but if you watch the tape, its plainly obvious. David Stern wants to make money. Money over competition. All day.

 

cool story!

do you remember when he rigged the draft so san antonio got tim duncan so he could pair up with d-rob and give the spurs the championships that stern wanted to give them?

I remember when stern rigged the finals with the knicks in it so they beat the rockets. It was rigged and the rockets lost badly cuz of it. True story!

I also remember when he rigged the draft lotto to make sure cleveland aka international media powerhouse got lebron.

then there was that time when he rigged it so the magic won the lotto with their 1 ball! Stern was a HUGE orlando fan and knew he could give them a finals victory over the rockets.

god I could go on and on and on....

 

If he really fixed games why did the mavs win? He hates cuban, and houston with yao is a bigger draw then dallas.

He probably tries to stretch out series, but doesn't chooses who wins and loses.