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Waller County: 'Illegal' Lane Change leads to Death

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  1. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: Video inside the cell where <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SandraBland?src=hash">#SandraBland</a> died. Waller Co. Sheriff showed <a href="https://twitter.com/KPRC2Sara">@KPRC2Sara</a> what it looks like. <a href="http://t.co/HJ6RSUquTH">http://t.co/HJ6RSUquTH</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Wische KPRC (@AaronKPRC) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronKPRC/status/623255867756969984">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NOW: Waller Co.: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SandraBland?src=hash">#SandraBland</a> was found hanging from the privacy partition in cell 95 at 8:58 am. <a href="https://twitter.com/KPRC2">@KPRC2</a></p>&mdash; Sara Donchey (@KPRC2Sara) <a href="https://twitter.com/KPRC2Sara/status/623258922808283136">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PHOTO: this is the exact cell where <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SandraBland?src=hash">#SandraBland</a> was found dead. <a href="https://twitter.com/KPRC2">@KPRC2</a> has an exclusive look inside. <a href="http://t.co/lnXIdDc0Tp">pic.twitter.com/lnXIdDc0Tp</a></p>&mdash; Sara Donchey (@KPRC2Sara) <a href="https://twitter.com/KPRC2Sara/status/623260290918952960">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash">#BREAKING</a>: Waller Co. releases timeline that shows a nearly 2 hour gap where <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SandraBland?src=hash">#SandraBland</a> was not visually checked on in jail. <a href="https://twitter.com/KPRC2">@KPRC2</a></p>&mdash; Sara Donchey (@KPRC2Sara) <a href="https://twitter.com/KPRC2Sara/status/623263208430678016">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Waller County DA's Office briefing media right now. Investigation continues. FBI has taken control of hard drives of videos being released</p>&mdash; Tracy Clemons (@TracyABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/TracyABC13/status/623262145182957568">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Waller Co. DA's Office: It's believed DPS will release dash cam video tomorrow.</p>&mdash; Tracy Clemons (@TracyABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/TracyABC13/status/623262353396621312">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Grand jury won't be meeting any time soon. It only meets once a month in Waller County.</p>&mdash; Tracy Clemons (@TracyABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/TracyABC13/status/623262613632192516">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DA's Office asking for any scientific tests possible to find out whether there were prints other than Sandra Bland's on the trash bag</p>&mdash; Tracy Clemons (@TracyABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/TracyABC13/status/623262889760034816">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DA: Sandra Bland was not a model person in traffic stop.</p>&mdash; Tracy Clemons (@TracyABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/TracyABC13/status/623263261371203584">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Information put out that she was pulled out of the window was a lie, according to Waller Co. DA's Office.</p>&mdash; Tracy Clemons (@TracyABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/TracyABC13/status/623263592935100416">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Videos being provided today haven't been analyzed by FBI</p>&mdash; Tracy Clemons (@TracyABC13) <a href="https://twitter.com/TracyABC13/status/623264559768322048">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Capt Brian Cantrell speaking now for Waller Co Sheriffs office. Says Bland arrested for assault. <a href="http://t.co/aXCBcbPwgt">pic.twitter.com/aXCBcbPwgt</a></p>&mdash; Larry Seward (@LSewardKHOU) <a href="https://twitter.com/LSewardKHOU/status/623257895858147329">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Waller Co Sheriffs Office: Bland found dead in semi standing position</p>&mdash; Larry Seward (@LSewardKHOU) <a href="https://twitter.com/LSewardKHOU/status/623258379272634368">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is a log of the video soon to be released video <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sandrabland?src=hash">#sandrabland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/khou?src=hash">#khou</a> <a href="http://t.co/Tik5X1HkYE">pic.twitter.com/Tik5X1HkYE</a></p>&mdash; Larry Seward (@LSewardKHOU) <a href="https://twitter.com/LSewardKHOU/status/623262686621478912">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  2. pahiyas

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    Semi-standing?
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's a press release the Waller County just issued abt meeting with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SandraBland?src=hash">#SandraBland</a>'s Fam. <a href="http://t.co/gwHbKB99v6">pic.twitter.com/gwHbKB99v6</a></p>&mdash; St. John B. Smith (@stjbs) <a href="https://twitter.com/stjbs/status/623583826900488192">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;We want to make certain that there's diversity on the grand jury.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/SenRoyceWest">@SenRoyceWest</a></p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623613900370526208">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DA also clarified again that treating the case as murder investigation doesn't mean it was determined to be one.</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623614911063523329">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;There are some questions,&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/SenRoyceWest">@SenRoyceWest</a> said after seeing dash cam footage. Said investigation will answer.</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623615670106783744">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/SenRoyceWest">@SenRoyceWest</a> is more direct, says Bland was threatened with taser to get out of her vehicle according to video.</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623615921647542272">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;The Texas Rangers are going to figure out why it wasn't mentioned,&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/SenRoyceWest">@SenRoyceWest</a> said about discrepancies in trooper affidavit.</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623616197079101440">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DPS director said trooper violated procedure, didn't exhibit professionalism or let Bland know what actions would be taken throughout.</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623616423949012996">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A student at presser asks how can you be sure this won't happen again, to us?</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623616856494964738">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/SenRoyceWest">@SenRoyceWest</a> cites new funding for body cameras for DPS officers as a response to student.</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623617059134402560">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Once you see what occurred,&quot; said <a href="https://twitter.com/SenRoyceWest">@SenRoyceWest</a>, &quot;you will probably agree with me,&quot; that Bland should not have been in that jail.</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623617401448312832">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/SenRoyceWest">@SenRoyceWest</a> said Bland did not bear any responsibility here. But Patrick wavers, said facts need to come out.</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623617881549377536">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick is emphasizing procedures of jail, handling inmates. &quot;She lost her life in the jail and that's what we have to look at.&quot;</p>&mdash; Leah Binkovitz (@leahbink) <a href="https://twitter.com/leahbink/status/623618073518411776">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    FF to 8:33ish if you want

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    Looks like she turned a simple warning into a trip to the jail. If the officer asks me to put out my cigarette, I'm putting out my cigarette. If the officer asks me to get out of the car, I'm getting out of the car.

    I've been stopped numerous times, I don't like it, and it's not fun. I even got arrested once. But, if the officer tells me he's only giving me a warning, I would be one very appreciative person.

    I don't know what happened at the jail house. But there was no reason for her to be so uncooperative. It was her own unnecessary behavior that ultimately caused her to go to jail.

    Just do what I do. Follow the instructions the officer gives you. Accept the warning or the ticket and move on.
     
  6. Sajan

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    This.

    It comes down to respecting authority...even when they are wrong or out of line. Once the situation is over, you deal with it appropriately.
     
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    She didn't act like a saint but nothing she did was aggressive or deserved her being arrested until this turd cop escalated the whole situation by saying he was gonna "light her up" with a taser and would drag her out of the car. This guy has no business being a police officer.

    Write the ticket and move on. Instead this cop flushed his career down the drain. And now a lady is dead.
     
  8. Duncan McDonuts

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    That cop was on a power trip. There was no need or suspicion to force Bland out of the car. He asked what was wrong, got an answer he didn't like but should have expected, and couldn't force Bland to comply to put out her cigarette. What was the charge to get her out of the car? She was arrested for resisting being unlawfully forced out of her vehicle.

    She shouldn't have been so uncooperative. It's best to keep quiet, follow commands, and limit your interaction with the cop. Instead, her talking back and constant goading fueled his ego and power trip. That's not illegal, though, and she didn't deserve being jailed for it.

    Cop should lose his job. He's not fit to be one if he goes on a power trip once his feelings are hurt.

    I still don't suspect any foul play in Bland's suicide, though. At a very emotional, pivotal point in her life, I could see her suicide as very plausible. I think it was a poor choice, though. She would have easily won a settlement.
     
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    LOL she was a total moron, I can't say the world is a worse place now that she killed herself.
     
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    The officer could have handled it better but Bland was looking for trouble.
     
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    No way, he was being cool and was going to just give her a warning...until she acted like a complete fool. He didn't do anything at all wrong.
     
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    Unlikely she would have "easily" won a settlement.
     
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    Also, how come I never run into the really cool cops who are just looking to give people warnings when I get pulled over?
     
  14. justtxyank

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    You are an absolute *******. The world is a lot worse for people who loved her and were her friend, my friends counted among them.

    I can assure you of this, more people will miss her than would bat an eye if you disappeared from this site forever. Maybe the world isn't much different without her for most people, but this website would be a million times better without YOU.
     
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    Yep seems like for whatever reason she was not in the mood to make things go smoothly with the cop
     
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    So which one of you fools are going to defend this saint now? LMAO. Glad the cop had his dash cam turned on so everybody could see this.

    It's tragic that she's dead -- but there's only one person to blame for her going to jail -- herself. That's 100% clear.
     
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    Fair enough, but the world is a lot better for everyone else who no longer has to deal with her crazy ass. Anyone stupid enough to turn a warning into a trip to jail isn't a loss to the world.

    LOL, now you are just mindlessly trolling. Be better.
     
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    Both parties are at fault to some degree. Personally, I expect a police officer, who is paid with our tax dollars and trained to diffuse situations like this....to be able to handle this in a professional manner. Give her a ticket and walk away. That is his job.

    There was absolutely zero reason to ask her to get out of the car or to ****ing threaten to "light her up." This dude is as unstable as this lady. You want to wear a badge you should be held to a higher standard than someone who is frustrated over a complete bull**** traffic stop.

    He proved incapable of handling a situation like this and should never wear a badge again. End of story.
     
  19. justtxyank

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    I realize that this place is not nearly as fun as it used to be. There isn't a section I like that bobby hasn't ruined for me.

    Fun while it lasted I guess.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    If only there was a feature you could use in order to not see my comments.....Oh wait, then you wouldn't have anything to whine about.
     

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