Waived Players for Rockets to Consider? (Earl Clark perhaps?)

Charlie V. = the minimum salary version of Bargnani


He would be an upgrade at the 4 for us.....believe it or not.

 

Kevin Garnett reportedly calls Villanueva 'a cancer patient'

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Kevin-Garnett-reportedly-calls-Villanueva-a-can?urn=nba-282205

 

oooh that may have been in bad taste... he's still a terrible locker room presence and won't fit in with our high powered offense

 

who would you go after him or antawn jamison ? give me a few reasons also if you can

 

i think the best plan of action is chasing granger when he is ultimately bought out. He's going to play angry and inspired basketball after being discarded by the pacers, a team that he was leading not so long ago. A lot of guys on our team have been disregarded in the past (lin, parsons, bev, even dwight to a certain extent) and play with a chip on their shoulder. Granger fits right into that mold and will be awesome coming off the bench. We won't have to rely on garcia or casspi as much and our bench lineup could replace the starting lineups of a couple of the really terrible teams in the league:

Lin
Granger
Garcia/Casspi
Dmo
Asik
off the bench!??!

How does that not make every person on this board salivate??

 

there's no player in the league with that name.... :grin:

 

yessss hes back!!!!!

 

hey i have a question, for anybody who has a better understanding of the CBA than I. How are offseason cap holds handled in the situation of a player who has been bought out and resigned by a different team in the prior year. Is the caphold calculated in relation to their original annual salary from the previous year or is it calculated from their most recent contract?

 

Upgrade to....Greg Smith?

 

Charlie

1. age and health

2. Could turn Charlie into an asset. More turnaround potential.

3. Charlie has some court nastiness that this team could use in the playoffs. He'll throw an elbow and initiate a confrontation. Got a little bit of street in him.

4. He's a better defender than Jamison. Both are subpar but he's better than Antawn at this stage of Antawn's career.

 

Actually Charlie on a minimum contract would be an upgrade to all of Jones/DMo/Casspi/Smith at the respective stages of their careers. He's a legit 6'11". He can shoot the ball from the equator. And his vet experience would give him the edge defensively over DMo/Jones/Smith.

Look....Smith is not a good defender. He can't defend 4's, not quick enough. And he can't stop 5's even a little bit. Smith is a defensive liability. Villanueva is not a great defender by any stretch of the imagination but he's better than Smith.

However none of our 4's are even good defenders. Jones has defensive potential but he simply isn't there. Villanueva's veteran experience puts him in better sted than Jones...especially when you are looking at a playoff series. DMo? He's actually showing some better defensive instincts right now....but honestly......he's way, way behind. Even with improvement he's still piss poor defensively. Just watch the games and watch him standing there and his man cutting to the rim for dunks. DMo's defense will be a liability in the playoffs.

The facts are we have very poor defenders at the 4. You can talk all day about them having potential, etc. But they're not there RIGHT NOW. None of them. And we're headed down the STRETCH into the playoffs.

We've got 96 minutes to burn at the 4/5 spots.

We know what's going on in the middle. Dwight and Asik are going to wind up playing all 48 minutes except in blowouts. And that will be the playoff 5 rotation barring one of them getting hurt. Smith ain't playing the 5 and DMo/JOnes ain't getting minutes at the 5. It'll be all Howard/Asik at the 5 once the playoffs get going.

That leaves the 48 minutes at the 4.

Parsons/Harden are going to get some of those 48 minutes as we play small ball with Beverley/Lin in the backcourt. So realistically that leaves you with around 38 minutes or so to fill at the 4. Now.....when you realize that the 5 spot is going to be filled by Howard/Asik and then 10 minutes are going to be taken by Parsons/Harden, then you should also realize that if we go into the playoffs against Duncan/Splitter or against DeAndre/Blake, or Gasol/Zach, etc., the odds are that Howard/Asik are going to overlap a few minutes too.

Realistically we're talking about 30-35 minutes a game at the PF spot. Who's gonna get those minutes? Well, they've been given to Jones by default for most of this season. And Jones has been adequate against the lottery teams and mostly inadequate against playoff teams. But neither has DMo nor Casspi really played that well to take the job away either. (Although in my humble opinion I still feel like Casspi is the best guy to have at the 4 with Dwight/Asik in the middle. And I think I can make the statistical case for that. But with Asik dinged most of the year Jones got his chance. Now we gotta figure out how to get Jones out of the rotation while preserving his trade value.)

The bottom line is we still have a vacuum in the big man rotation, specifically at the PF spot. Villanueva with his size and shooting range and his experience is an upgrade. Not a tremendous upgrade, mind you. But an upgrade nevertheless....especially for the minimum. Now...whether you drop Smith or Casspi....or Covington(eek!) to add him....I don't know. I'd be most tempted to drop Smith I suppose. Or possibly Casspi. Or possibly even Garcia if I knew I could waive him and somebody in the East pick him up. Or possibly even Hamilton if he doesn't show something in the next few games.

 

From one point of view, I can't really see any harm in dropping Greg Smith to add CharlieV.

The ONLY downside would be an injury to both of Dwight and Asik, which would then leave us with DMo manning the middle.
As terrifying as that sounds, it's still probably better than Smith anyway.

HOWEVER, CV hasn't shot better than 40% from the since the 2010/11 season. His 3 point career numbers are poor (34%) and he was always a very lead footed defender.
The only benefit to having him would be as a 3 point 'stretch 4' type, but Earl Clark offers just as much shooting (if not more at this point in their careers), and brings a whole lot more on the defensive and energy side of things.

Not sure we need a fat, out of shape, has been sitting in the corner and missing 3s?

 

i would much rather sign mwp and let him bring some defense

 

orlando johnson is a very good player

 

Fixed

 

Charlie V can't even sniff T. Jone's underwear lint...

 

With respect, you have truly lost your mind with this whole vendetta you have against our current PF's -- Jones especially. I've enjoyed reading your posts for many years under your various aliases, but on this subject it honestly seems to get worse the more I read from you.

I mean....Charlie Villanueva? A defensive upgrade? I'm in utter disbelief that those words were just spoken. Forget about the fact that you're arguing a recently discarded player from a lowly team like the Pistons could start (upgrade, whatever) on a playoff team, it's like trying to argue Kevin Martin is valuable for his defense. It's madness.

Anybody that has seen Villanueva play knows he moves like he has lead in his shoes. That renders him completely useless against perimeter 4/5's. On top of that, he's a space cadet: lazy and seemingly indifferent to what's going on out there when he's not tossing up a jump shot. He's nowhere near good enough to justify his high usage whenever he's out there on the court. He's also not a good enough rebounder to make the argument that he'll improve our defensive rebounding (thus cutting down on some of the second chance looks/baskets teams are getting at Jones' expense).

So if your eyes tell you he's slow and lazy and every single measurable statistic known to man tells you he's worthless, I think it's time to start calling a spade a spade. CV is garbage.

I think you're seriously undervaluing what Motiejunas, Asik and Casspi can all bring to the table defensively. All of those guys are defensive pluses whenever they're on the court. Jones is obviously still a work in progress. Eventually, Jones is going to figure out that you can't get by on merely skill and athleticism alone. He routinely gets outhustled, doesn't crash the boards, misses assignments, etc. He'll figure it out eventually. In the meantime, D-Mo is starting to really make an impact on this team and we're getting back a seemingly healthy Asik. I'm fine with rolling with our current 4/5 rotation as-is in this platoon style format. I'd love to also add a Granger type to essentially take Casspi's minutes if possible, but I think the concerns over our PF rotation are severely overblown.

 

Really? 4.6 pts, 1.6 rbd, 0.4 ast per game, it's hard to believe.

 

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