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Wafer/Strawberry

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hank McDowell, Oct 15, 2008.

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Who do you keep?

  1. Wafer

    35.5%
  2. Strawberry

    24.8%
  3. Both

    35.1%
  4. Neither

    4.6%
  1. Noob Cake

    Noob Cake Member

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    People, DJ can attack and foul. He is kind the slasher we need. Everyone gets pissed when T-Mac starts jacking up long 2's and no one can penetrate.

    Wafer can shoot, Barry can shoot the open 3's. Luther can shoot the over 3's.

    DJ > Wafer
     
  2. NICK3QB

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    I don't know if any of you guys ever saw Von Wafer play in college at Florida St., but he has that kind of scoring potential in him. He's a guy you can bring off of the bench and he's capable of putting up close to 30 pts if given 20-25 min. This honestly is a really tough call though. The way I look at it is Von wouldn't be getting the minutes that Head got last year. Barry is going to be the Luther replacement. Thats what he was brought in for. In Barry you have a more reliable shooter, ball handler, better passer, and defender. Strawberry and Wafer both bring a fresh feel to the team. I just don't know that you can really let go of these guys right now. I don't care what anyone says about matchups with Utah last year. Luther had PLENTY of open looks the last 2 playoffs and he just flat out forgot how to shoot the ball. I just don't know if he can handle that kind of pressure. If I'm Morey or RA then I say look for a taker and try to move him.
     
  3. IndoRockets

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    what for keeping luther if we know that after he have bad games there will be a luther bashing thread here :rolleyes:
     
  4. RV6

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    Considering this past year we had injuries and the year before that we didn't have landry, scola or ron, i don't think Deron, by himself, is going to beat Houston. Deron is more likely to try and get other involved because he won't be able to do it almost alone this year against Houston. Improved team D can also cut back Deron's drives. If he wants to launch threes all day then he should. This time around, Houston will win every time if he's getting 35 and not getting anyone else involved.
     
  5. RV6

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    I didn't want to go that far since I haven't seen Wafer play much before he came here, but when I see him shoot its like i'm watching an All-star. The rest of his game may not compare, but his jumper has it all.
     
  6. FR0497

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    Trade Luther. Keep DJ and Wafer. ;)
     
  7. NICK3QB

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    I wouldn't go nearly as far to say he has all-star potential but he does have potential to light it up. Florida St. tends to give either Duke or North Carolina fits every year at least at home, and there was one year in particular where Von gave them both fits. The thing is there are guys who are in the league for years and years before they just get it. Thats why you have journey men in the league who turn into key players on championship teams because it just takes them years to figure it out. Not saying Wafer has yet, but I'd be willing to at least take the chance to see based on his scoring potential. If you look at the other teams he was a part of, none of them were known as defensive teams. So if its true that defense is contagious then its possible that that part of the game will spread to him as well with a veteran team.
     
  8. shortfuse3

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    i dont think we can cut either of them the way they're playing now. keep them both and trade luther.
     
  9. RV6

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    Me either, i was mostly refering to his jumpshot, how he rises up, creates space to get it off, high release, etc...but yeah, he 's not well rounded enough to be an all-star one day.
     
  10. doublebogey

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    Harris never has a chance. For Wafer/Strawberry, no matter how well they perform, they both will be cut because of LT concern. My bet is all three non-guaranteed contracts will be cut after the last preseason game.
     
  11. desi tmac91

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    Harris will be cut.
     
  12. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    it sounds like a delicious desert.
     
  13. northeastfan

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    We need to cut both of them. We need players with intangibles, not players who can actually shoot, drive, and play defense. Leave those players to the Bostons and LAs of the NBA.
     
  14. NICK3QB

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    I would agree with you, but don't doubt that Morey would move Luther Head though. If he were to do that for draft compensation then the LT concerns are out of the window.
     
  15. desi tmac91

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    Strawberry Wafers! I love them.
     
  16. Eddie5ball

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    Definately keep Strawberry over Wafer. Strawberry has shown to me to be able to defend, slash, and knock down a shot. The way he drove to the basket and was getting calls is a big plus for this team. Remember we could not get anyone else to draw fouls last year. Wafer is just a shooter and a little better finishing. He tends to just stand around on offense and defense.
     
  17. abc2007

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    Keep both! They both deserve more chance. We can remove one right before the trade deadline.
     
  18. AXG

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    Neither one impresses me that much yet. They both played great last night, but it's only one pre-season game and both were being showcased. Like someone mentioned earlier, his career fg% is .230 and his career 3p% is .136, in games that actually count. Strawberry is probably a more well-rounded player. He can cut well and play some D, but his jumper is suspect despite hitting three 3s last night. There's still two more preseason games left to evaluate these guys. If they play bad, I bet there's going to be many threads saying these guys should be cut now.
     
  19. NICK3QB

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    You can't compare numbers with these guys though. Neither of them have had a large enough sample size to even think about comparing them with other players. The only way to know if these guys can really contribute to a team and put up decent numbers are for them to be in a rotation. Since neither figures to be in the rotation regularly, you just have to figure which guy gives you the most. Strawberry is more physical and can play defense with also providing the ability to drive to the lane. The other is lightning in a bottle at times. Wafer has been like that since college. The one thing I like about him is that he also provides a swagger to the team that Artest and Landry both bring to the table. You can knock him on a lot but the guy doesn't lack confidence. I'm not a Luther Head hater, I would just keep these 2 based on potential. You know what you get with Luther Head at this point. The guy can shoot, theres no doubt about it. But with having Brent Barry, that gives you the flexibility to get rid of him. Barry replaces Head. You can't discount that. The other 2 are just pieces to the puzzle.
     
  20. doublebogey

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    i dont doubt Morey will make a trade. But when?

    Head/Francis/Hayes are not attractive assets. Head is a dime a dozen. The Cavs were interested in Head before but not this season - the Cavs have enough guards. Francis is recovering from injury. Hayes plays no offense.

    Most early trades are teams try to rescue their season. None of Head/Francis/Hayes has that kind of impact.

    By trade deadline, Morey will need to take back 2 million TE to go under LT. That means Morey will need to trade about 4 million contract becoz half of the season has passed.

    The Rockets are in tough position to get under LT. But Les/Morey intend to keep the LT low. That's why I think all non-guaranteed contracts will be cut.
     

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