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Wafer is no T-mac, But he makes Yao better

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by liu1107, Jan 18, 2009.

  1. Rowdy Drummer

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    i agree with you 100% with an injured t-mac wafer is picking up the slack playing some great ball. but i can't wait till t-mac is healthy again!
     
  2. DaronMalakian

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    thats it.
     
  3. fogo11606

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    Hopefully T-mac will be healthy and play some rick ball for once. So I hope Grady will start running the floor without the ball and penetrate kick out when he come back not just standing there holding the ball with 1 hand and feeding Yao the ball.

    That kind of offense is too predictable , resulting alot of turnovers. Wafers may not be a better playmaker than Grady but at least he penetrate the lane and move around making the offense much harder to read, so I think that's your different right there.

    And no Wafer does not make Yao better but he makes it EASIER.
     
  4. mich

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    Wafer is a role player. We felt he is good so far because he is not supposed to be that good with 0.8M salary. But be honest, a role player is a role player. He can be better to become a star player with consistency, but it takes years to build, not months. You would not say he did good, if he earns 10M a year, because you have a higher expectation. Like Wafer did last night, FGM 7-18 would not make him a star player.

    Remember: Wafer did not make Yao better, but Yao make him a lot easier.
     
  5. IamKhan

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    wafer makes the whole team better, that makes yao shoot more efficiently. 12-12. The late Lakers game when they stopped going to Wafer, that's more like a TMac-Yao team. The late Boston game when both Brooks and Wafer moving, cutting, passing, slashing, and making shots, Yao and the whole played the best.

    Tmac passed the ball to Yao in the slow motion should not be the only offense.
     
  6. MandM's

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    agree with the point.

    anytime you can put someone on the floor that can score helps yao. they have to spread the defense.

    same for tracy when yao is out.

    it is a no brainer. but most on this board fail to realize it. but seeing is believing

    wafer is the man. hopefully he can keep up this level of play because when battier, artest and tramac come back the rocks will be hard to beat
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    Wafer > Injured, half ass T-mac

    Healthy T-Mac >>>>>> Wafer
     
  8. Tornadoofsoul6

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    +1.

    T-Mac makes Yao better, Yao makes Wafer better. 4
     
  9. mbiker

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    Wafer > Injured Tracy

    Healthy Tracy >>> Wafer

    Wafer in an Adelman offense >>> Healthy Tracy in an Adelman offense

    Tracy does not fit in RA’s offense. It is like trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. It may work in the regular season, but not in the playoffs.
     
  10. gta

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    Wafer and Yao compliment each other well. I have always said that dominate low post big man works better with slashers and shooters. Wafer is both. Look at the Spurs, Manu is just a better version of Wafer. McGrady has never been a good shooter all his career. He was a better slasher years ago. Now he's average at best.
    So yes, Wafer and Yao works better than McGrady and Yao
     
  11. BoomShakalaka

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    True, also Grady hardly shows any movement at all , even when healthy. I really don't think Grady and Yao will ever work. People argued saying Grady can't drive to the basket cus Yao clogs the lane, well apparently Wafer doesn't have a problem with that. If Grady doesn't come back healthy, he has to go seriously.
     
  12. Angkor Wat

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    Agreed about Wafer working better in Ricks offense but we don't run a true Adleman offense. Its more of a hybrid, which is what we should do. Especially when Yao is in the game. It is mostly, get the Ball to Yao, if there is a double, repost or swing it around to the open man. Thats not the Adleman offense, that just playing simple basketball. When we have the bench in there, that is where the Adleman offense should go to work. With the starters, we need the hybrid style.
     
  13. crash5179

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    Teams HAVE been giving TMac the open 3 and garding against the drive. Anytime a player besides Yao demands double teams or even just honest D that is one less defender to double Yao.
     
  14. IamKhan

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    Actually, a tmac centered offense makes yao a nonfactor, yes, yao would average 20/10, but it can easily be replaced by the combinations of Landry/Scola/Deke or Howard/Deke, each time Yao went down, the team did not become any worse.

    Tmac played best when he was surrounded by defenders and spot-up shooters under a JVG half court system, he was THE ALL OFFESNSE. However, that system could not pass the first round. All other players, including Yao was trained to get the Ball from TMac. In the playoff, when the Jazz send hard double on TMac, only 4 players could score; when tmac was down in 05 season, it looked like we could not win even one game.
     
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    FYI, McGrady has always been regarded as the best mid-range mass-volume shooter in the league and statistically, his mid-range percentage was higher then Kobe, Lebron etc.
     
  16. badgerfan

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    Wafer's a better fit for Adelman's offense. Once he gets the ball he does something immediately rather than stopping and trying to stare his defender down.

    Wafer's a better fit for Yao in the sense that he doesn't need to hold the ball to be effective. Right now there's a problem with both T-Mac and Yao needing the ball to get their games going. Wafer's more of a catch and shoot guy and that's more complimentary to Yao.
     
  17. crash5179

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    Did you see the half time interview with one of the Heat assistant coaches?

    He specifically said that the Heat knew Wafer could score and they game planned to stop him. He also said that they would go into the locker room and work on more adjustments to try and stop him. Pretty damn good for "Just a role player" don't you think.

    Wafer has been scoring inside and out hitting over 50% of his field goal attempts and over 40% of his threes. That is way more than a normal role player... :rolleyes: Even a blind man should be able to see that.

    The question should not be about the type of contribution we have been getting from Wafer because anyone should be able to see that. The question should be can he keep it up. Teams are going to start game planning against him on a regular basis now. If he can keep it up then there is no question that he is the single biggest free agent steel of the off season. If he can't keep it up then maybe your right, he is just a role player that happened to get hot and perform like an all star.
     
  18. Rocket River

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    we been running with this 'IF' for a while .. .
    I dunno . . sometimes it just doesn't seem like
    TMac is running the same offense as everyone else
    or worse . .. the team runs a different offense when he there
    than when he is not

    Rocket River
     
  19. curt

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    Deke makes Yao better. Believe me I am a extremely plugged-in person. :D
     
  20. liu1107

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    right on the point..
     

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