he is also going to a private meeting at titans training facility this week.. so vince isn't only one getting private meeting with them
This is a stupid question, but considering how athletic Vince is.. is there anyway to make him accelerate faster.. if he changes his footwork or something a little? I imagine they probably work with track people to increase their acceleration so I'm not sure if its a technique thing or what exactly.
Yes it is known as slow, see the report from last year. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/8320128 Really questions Morts report from "one" anonyomous "scout" about a lot of things. The same one who wasn't impressed with his throwing when everyone else said he through strong, accurate and impressive. Same one who reported 4.58 (even NFL.com/Brandt has no higher than 4.57). The same one deemphasizing some off performances by Cutler. Now confusing a slow track for a fast one seems a little hard to do. If I was a conspiracy theory guy I say maybe the same one leaking the 1st Wonderlic score. I won't go so far as an orchestrated conspiracy. But I do know to take a lot these media leaked reports with a grain of salt because there is spin and agendas (agents, teams jockying for certain guys) emebbeded in much of what we get. By most reports Vince did very well at the pro day. But the real tests are with the inidivial teams, and we won't know sh*t.
I may need to watch that video again, but IMO Vince starts to pull up and coast it the last 10 yards. _________ yeah he definitely does over the last 5 yards...
Vince isn't built to excel in the 40. He gets faster when he gets going because his strides are so long in full speed. I would put him up against just about anyone in the 100. He has "breakaway speed"
raw... that's a good point... I'm not sure if that is good or bad.. in some ways I"d rather he accelerate faster to get away from defenders going after sacks etc.. but in other ways the good stride and break away speed is good..
I'm not an expert or anything but I think doing squats will help your initial burst off the line (assuming you are in a sprinter's position). But when you're standing, I'm not sure it will have the same full effect. We also have to look at VY's size, 6-5 225 isn't exactly the ideal type of body to have excellent acceleration. Guys like Bush/Huff/Maroney will have much better acceleration since they are more compact and are obviously lighter. VY's biggest asset in his running is the strides he takes. I remember in the OkSt. game, the commentators were saying how the NFL calls him a "2-Stepper" because he covers 5 yards in 2 steps. IIRC, I counted him covering 80 yards in like 30 strides. This is also helps in his scrambling abilities, with his length, he can quickly seperate himself from the defender by just taking 1-2 steps.
what the hell kind of track was that? Someone call a putt putt in austin and see if they are missing putting greens QUICK!
Who cares what he runs, we know he is fast. That is not the issue. I can't believe people are arguing so much over this.
so we should draft vy so he can scamble his way to superbowl huh ? not in the NFL.. look at micheal vick he is getting hurt from trying to dance around defenders. He will suceed... yes.. but the falcons are a more complete team we are and they haven't gotten anywhere. What says drafting young will ? In a world of busts, Id use the pick on bush.
Who said anything about scrambling his way to a SB? Today was all about his throwing, and supposedly he threw very well. VY is a much better passer than Vick IMO and a much more cautious runner. BTW, you do know that the Falcons were 1st place in the NFC South just 2 years ago and was 1 game away from going to the Super Bowl right?
Young gives NFL scouts what they wanted By JOHN MCCLAIN Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle AUSTIN - Quarterback Vince Young's coming-out party at the University of Texas' pro day Wednesday turned into his coronation as a legitimate candidate to be the first pick in the draft on April 29. The Texans will lead off the draft, and even though they are expected to take Southern California running back Reggie Bush, Young's outstanding performance Wednesday at the Longhorns' pro day should make them think long and hard before making the selection. "He did a great job," Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. "I was real impressed. He showed a very strong arm, and he was accurate on the move. He looked like he could have thrown all day. He made every throw. He did everything you could ask a guy to do in this situation." Young — who was measured and weighed at 6-4 1/2 and 228 pounds — put on an impressive performance in the Longhorns' practice bubble. Young performed before an audience that included Longhorns coach Mack Brown and offensive coordinator Greg Davis; his agent, Major Adams; his mother, two uncles, friends and former teammates such as Chicago running back Cedric Benson, Kansas City linebacker Derrick Johnson and Seattle defensive tackle Marcus Tubbs. Young threw 57 passes. One was dropped, and only four were off target. "I was impressed, but I wasn't surprised because we already knew Vince was a great athlete," Texans owner Bob McNair said. "He showed a super arm. He was really accurate. He put the ball on the numbers. He was accurate throwing on the run, and he didn't have to break stride. It was a great performance." Young's showcase was orchestrated by his personal coach, Jerry Rhome, a former NFL offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. For the last month, Rhome has been tutoring Young in Houston to prepare him for Wednesday. Rhome had Young drop back as if he were taking snaps from center instead of playing in the shotgun as he did for the Longhorns. Young threw from the pocket. He rolled right and left. He threw short, intermediate and long passes. Young's most impressive pass came when he rolled to his left and threw across his body 60 yards down the left sideline. "Rhome did a good job with him, which I fully expected him to do," Texans general manager Charley Casserly said. "He threw the ball well, and his footwork was good." Young threw to four receivers, including three Longhorns: tight end David Thomas, wide receiver Brian Carter and fullback Ahmard Hall. Young also threw to his close friend, receiver D.J. Smith, who has been working out with him regularly. Young even ran a reverse option, catching a long pass from Carter in stride down the right sideline. "I may be a quarterback, but I can still get down the field and catch the ball," Young said. Young knew he had put on quite a show but was as cool as he was in the Rose Bowl. "I feel like I did a good job, and I had fun," he said. "I wanted to showcase my ability. I wanted to show that I can make all the throws from a three-, five- and seven-step drop. I know I still have a lot to work on, and I want everyone to know that I can be coached." Veteran scouts said they could see Rhome's influence, especially on pass drops. "Jerry's really helped me," Young said. "I was excited to throw today. I felt real confident doing it." Sprint session When the pro day began, Young didn't plan on running the 40-yard dash at the team's training facility. But he changed his mind and ran one time. Four scouts had him timed at 4.57, 4.60, 4.60 and 4.61 seconds. "The scouts wanted to see me run, so I ran," Young said. "I'm a team guy." Young joked with his receivers as well as some of his teammates who lined up behind him. He also called out to his grandmother in the bleachers. "I'm a different breed of quarterback," he said. "I like to interact with my people." Kubiak likes Young's leadership qualities. "One of the things that impresses me about him is the way his teammates gravitate to him, which I think is important for a player at that position," Kubiak said. "You could see a little of that today. He handles himself real well." Tennessee has the third pick. A Titans contingent of general manager Floyd Reese, coach Jeff Fisher and offensive coordinator Norm Chow spent time with Young on Wednesday night and will work him out again today. "The Titans were the first team to call to set something up, so we did," Young said. "I don't mind doing this again for the Titans or any other team that wants me to work out for them. I love football. This is my job now." Young is going to visit Baltimore. The New York Jets are coming to Houston to work him out, and the Texans will bring Young to Reliant Stadium in early April. " I'm really interested in sitting down with him and getting to know him," McNair said. "We'll get some quality one-on-one time with him. We'll do the same with Reggie Bush, too." Pack mentality Green Bay has the fifth pick. General manager Ted Thompson walked away from Young's workout shaking his head in amazement. "That was a hell of a workout," Thompson said. "What impressed me the most was his velocity on all his throws. And he's just so smooth in everything he does." The Packers used a first-round pick on California's Aaron Rodgers last year, so there are doubts that they would take another quarterback. "I'll go back to the Sam Bowie situation— if you have a chance to get Michael Jordan, you get Michael Jordan," Thompson said. john.mcclain@chron.com
Just knowing that Casserly was there gives me the creeps. I swear, that dude has the plague now. Nothing he does can be right. He is an outsider on his own team.
Honestly, it's the same one Vasher ran a 4.6+ on. It doesn't matter now, cuz Vasher can obviously play in this league. Vasher went on to run a sub 4.5 for Chicago and San Fran. 4.6 corners would really struggle in this league.I think that track is/was known to be slow. desert, I think Mort's source may be Chris Landry. LSU guy who claims Aaron Brooks is a better athlete than VY.
Damn right. Casserly is the Isaiah Thomas of the NFL, and he's single-handedly running this team into the ground.
I'm not a big fan of Mel Kiper, but on the Mike and Mike show this am, he hit the nail on the head. Nothing that happens in workouts will impact evaluations of VY. You either liked him before or you didn't, and all the data that comes from the workout will be interpreted in a way to support those predispositions. (I'm paraphrasing, but that was basically his point). It's very simple to me. You take VY if you love his intangibles enough. He's a leader. He' confident. His pocket poise in big games in outrageous. Let me say that again, his pocket poise in big games is off the charts. People talk about his ability to beat defenses with his legs. Most of the time, the focus is on his speed, agility, etc. Those attributes are fine and dandy but what separates him as a prospect is his ability to feel pressure, slide away from pressure, buy time and make plays. Those abilities (supplemented by superior athleticism) are what will make him special. But those are the abilities that cannot be measured in a work out or combine. You can only judge Vince Young by looking at game tape. If you're the type that needs to quantify everything, then move on. VY is not for you. I'm glad McNair was there.
