Maybe you should check your facts before calling people idiots rikesh. He redshirted his freshman year which doesn't count as a year of eligibility. Split time w/ Chance Mock his first year of eligibility (1st). Played decently his sophomore year (2nd year) and won the Rose Bowl. And then had one of the best seasons college football has ever seen his Junior year (3rd). How was his 3rd year his sophomore year? (Unless your counting his true freshman year for which he redshirted and didn't play, for which does not count against your 4 years of eligibility). Yep, that's what I thought.
The freshman year counts, he was not ready to play (HE WAS LEARNING). Your point does not make sense. I am going with rikesh on this one
Of course you're with Rikesh. You hate Vince cuz you attended atm. He honestly didn't have to play his freshman year. Simms and Nordgren played. I often wonder how good he would've been if he were allowed to compete for the job his second year with Mock. As it is, they changed the offense for Vince anyways. I don't know if that's an indictment or compliment towards Vince, but the guy was 30-2 and imo, the offense has always looked out of sync, even with Simms out there.
I am just now sold on Reggie. Just a hunch.Think about it practically...Domanick's shortcomings < David Carr's. Behind the same line Domanick's performance > Carr's. According to everyone not named Chance or MadMax...Reggie > Vince now but Vince > Reggie on upside and longevity. If they want to make a difference next year then they should trade the pick and get more folks.
I know his redshirt year didn't than count towards his eligibility but he was in college in that year and learning the system so it counts as a year that he was learning the system and in college. His redshirt freshmann and sophomore year he had a completion % under 60% both years which sucks. He also only had 18 touchdowns and 18 INT's. Don't get me wrong I like Vince but he won't be a good NFL QB for at least 3 years IMO. I just think Reggie Bush will be great and will help the team quicker. He is also the safer pick and feels a need. He can in many ways and is the playmaker the Texans desperately needs.
You can't compare Domanick Davis and David Carr's productions. The Texans O-lineman have always been decent run blockers but horrible pass blockers. For example, Milford Brown, Todd Wade, and Zach Wiegert have all ways been known as good run blockers but ok pass blockers. Put them in the Texans offense and that makes them worst.
Of course you do IC? I understand his point, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. His original post said it took him 3 years to make the transition, I don't see how you can count his true freshman year where he never played, how can you make a transition to the game when you didn't take a single snap As far as I am concerned (and for the NCAA in that matter) the year after you redshirt is your 1st year, not your 2nd. I guess you can be nitpicky and count that your redshirt freshman year as your 1st year, but like I said, it's kinda difficult to make a transition to the game when: a. You can't play due to redshirting and b. You split time your 1st of eligibility. In this case, you could say that it took Bush 3 years to make the transition as well since he only ran for 521 yards his 1st year, had a decent year his 2nd year (908 yards), and finally broke out his 3rd year. Oh well, I guess it all matters on whether or not you want to count a freshman year where you redshirt as your 1st year or whether you count the year you actually play the 1st year.
Brooks then Young. I don't see Al Davis passing on VY at all if he is there at #7. The question is if he would move up. Brooks deal is two years, so I am pretty sure the Raiders will take one of the top 3 QBs with the aim for them to take over in year 2 or year 3. Also another source said only the Redskins were not there. With no 1st, that makes a lot more sense. Also makes you wonder the accuracy of information. SOME OTHER TIDBITS Chris Mort has been pimping for Cutler all year long. Cutler might have a better pure arm, but his accuracy supposedly wasn't great at the senior bowl or the combine. If he thinks his guy is going before VY, dream on. Also, ESPN reported 4.49-4.57. The track tested is not supposed to be quite as fast as the new combine surface. Don't know if th range is from multiple runs or multiple timers. Even if the slow time is correct, still as fast as Larry Fitzgerald or Mike Williams (Jerry Rice and Bolden too), upper 95% of QBs fast, but certainly not Mike Vick run away from everyone fast. If the 4.57 is accurate and comparable to combine conditions (I would be suprised because I never saw him caught form behind on the football field), that would be a little dissappointing to me if I were a GM. Not a big deal, but a little under expectations. As of now it looks not smart to have skipped the combine for VY. Faster track and could have showed his stuff there. But truth be told it sounds like he will be doing private workouts for the Titans, Jets and Texas at least. In the end maybe that was the plan from the start, we will see if it works out.
For the record I am willing to bet that they don't take Reggie...not that they do take Vince. There is a difference between what I want them to do and what I think they will do.
Mort's kid goes to Ark. To me, Vince's time is no big deal. He's the second, maybe most mobile qb in modern era.
The "track" they ran on looks freaking awful -- I can't believe they didn't set up something better. Pro Day Video
I agree that Bush would be able to help the team quicker but I he doesn't fill a need. Our needs our a OL, WR, MLB, and a Safety. You can look at his stats and say he sucks, but there are so many things you have to account for. You can also compare those years versus his Junior year and be absolutely blown away: 3000+ yards 65.2% 26 TDs. Like I said, you can look at Bush's stats in his 1st 2 years and say he sucked or was decent, but like VY, there are things you have to account for.
You guys can stand around and see who can pee the farthest all you want but the fact is right now Bob McNair doesn't even know what he's going to do on draft day. How can he? Offers for the #1 pick have not even been proposed yet much less the inevitable last minute phone calls and bids on Saturday morning. Sure they have contengency plans and Reggie could be option one, but the Texans just have to work it up to the last second and pull the trigger on what they see as the best option. Maybe Bob will be at the draft party and hear the crowd roaring Vince,Vince and decide he has to make the people's pick. Maybe the pre-draft negotiations with Reggie go badly. Maybe Bob finds one of his thoroughbred horse's head in his bed and trades the #1 pick to Jerry Jones for some italian sausage. Sure it feels like it will be Reggie but sh*t does happen.
Thanks for the video. Guys on 610 were jokingly talking about how they should PPV pro-days, sad thing is that I would have payed to see it. I really wanted to see VY's throwing drills as well as David Thomas (who supposedly had a terrific workout) I also want to see Huff's and Cedric's workouts as well. Another note, where do ya'll see A. Hall going? I think he was a very underrated FB IMO.
Hall probably will be an undrafted FA. Also, I always thought the UT track was known to be pretty slow. Mort is the only one that I know of that's said it's fast. I think many people recognized that the INdy track was a bit faster than years past.
