Check the stats. They don't lie. Vince's team has relied on defense and special teams to make their late run. The truth hurts. WORST PASSING QB IN THE NFL
Steve McNair, NFL MVP led team to the SUPERBOWL currently leads THE RAVENS to the 2nd seed in the AFC.
No one is suggesting that Vince is a terrible prospect. Your arguments are typically like this -- bizarre and misdirected. Vince is however, likely the worst passing QB in the league. The stats bear that out. The incredible suckoff that he receives around here is ridiculous. Air McNair came into the league with a cannon for an arm. Not Uncle Rico's chicken wing. Nice try tinman, on that attempt though. The illustration I was making was comparing his *running* ability to Vince's and showing how it has the potential to decline. Totally different players.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Young Vincent Paul Young, Jr., commonly Vince Young or "VY", born May 18, 1983[1] in Houston, Texas, is an American football player. He is a dual-threat quarterback, and the current starting quarterback for the National Football League Tennessee Titans. After bringing a national championship to the University of Texas Longhorns, Young was drafted by the Tennessee Titans as the #3 overall pick in the 2006 NFL Draft on April 29, 2006. As a college junior, he was one of three finalists for the 2005 Heisman Trophy, finishing second to Reggie Bush in the final vote. Young was named the best college football player of 2005 by College Football News, based upon their statistical analysis.[2] Young played college football for the University of Texas Longhorns before turning professional. Young led his team to a victory in the BCS National Championship Game on January 4, 2006, in a classic thriller against the defending BCS national champion University of Southern California Trojans in the Rose Bowl Game, that had two Heisman Trophy Winners: both USC quarterback Matt Leinart and USC running back Reggie Bush, to capture the Longhorns' fourth national championship. On January 8, 2006, Young declared he would forego his last year of NCAA college eligibility and become a professional player by entering the 2006 NFL Draft. This decision made him the second player in Longhorn coach Mack Brown's eight year term as head coach of the Texas Longhorns to enter the NFL with eligibility remaining.[3] January 10, 2006 was proclaimed "Vince Young Day" in his home town of Houston, Texas.[4] Vince Young has now led the Tennessee Titans to six straight wins, for a total of eight, including three fourth quarter comebacks.
yet hes going to win rookie of the year. he gets the W all that matters, david carrs stats looked great through 8 games, see what he did for the team. go drink more haterade
alright, he wasn't a good passer, he also won 6 games in a row and finished with a winning record as a starter. just like I can't ignore the passing stats, you can't ignore the wins, and you can try to pass them off as you may but the fact is his team was 0-4 without him starting. the praise he gets is for winning, which you may not know is the ultimate goal. peyton manning was terrible his first year, who gives a crap now. but peyton's team was also weak. you can't ignore wins. you can't ignore the comebacks, against the giants, with his arm, against buffalo with his arm. some with his legs. your analogy with mcnair ruins your argument, and that's why you're bizarre in your hatred. if you admit that mcnair declined as a runner and improved as a passer, when you say vince is gonna decline as a runner, you can't ignore that he is also going to improve also. you can't have it both ways.
Let me repeat myself: McNair came into the NFL with a CANNON for an arm. Have you ever heard anyone refer to Vince's arm as being like a cannon? Ha! I'm thinking slingshot. McNair came from a D-AA team and improved as he saw greater competition, learned the ropes etc. Vince has the legs that McNair had when he entered the league, but not the arm or the brains. The point I was making was the McNair's mobility declined considerably over time. Vince's will do the same. Would you want an immobile quarterback with the lowest QB rating in the league leading your team? Ha! Can Vince learn the intricacies of the NFL? Who knows, but objective data indicates that he is not intelligent.
Cannon of an arm? do you also remember mcnair sitting 2 years so he could learn the system? they threw vince into the fire and he proved he could win. the titans had the hardest schedule in the entire league and got W's. Stats dont mean jack and your head is too far up your ass to realize Vince is a lot smarter than you think. Intricacies of the NFL? have u seen what he did against the NFL's defense over and and over this year? also his passing stats, name a receiver on their team that would be a #1 slot anywhere else. its a horrible receiving core. Imagine having andre johnson and eric moulds to throw too. vince cant do it all himself, he needs help, which he got from pacman jones a lot. your analysis of his qb rating means nothing, and the texans got beat twice by vince and his horrible qb rating.
lets see, his team was 8-8 for the year. That's pretty good for the 1st year of QB. Beating playoff teams, making comebacks, being a good citizen. That's sounds like a formula for people to like this guy.
Of the rookie QB class of 2006, Vince Young has the best record as a starter, surpassing the only other three starting rookie QB's: Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, and Bruce Gradkowski. Vince Young has now led the Tennessee Titans to eight wins, including six straight, three consecutive fourth quarter comebacks, and four total fourth quarter comebacks. Vince Young has also appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated thrice in 2006: once in the edition after the 2006 Rose Bowl, once for the 2006 NFL Draft preview issue, and the last after his Titans won 4 straight games. Before todays game.-and vince played less games than reggie fyi Rushing Yards VY-523 TD- 6 Reggie Bush- Yards- 545 TD- 5 I guess trader jorge thinks Vince and Reggie are both busts in NFL then
I'm not sure how a guy with the worst passer rating in the NFL is going to win rookie of the year. Its possible, but he isn't the clear cut favorite. TJ is right for the most part. VY is a quarterback, and he's probably the worst passing QB in the league, according to his numbers. His kicker won a game with a 60 yard field goal, his running back was great, and he needed overtime to beat the Texans of all things. He's a leader, he's cool under pressure, he runs very well, but his throwing ability has been awful. He has a long way to go to be considered "great" in the NFL. Put the annointing oil away, for now. Look at Vick, he was going to revolutionalize the QB position because of his legs, but NFL defenses caught up with him Vick's situation provies that you have to be able to throw the ball to suceed in the NFL.
Predictable. A sign of a lost argument... the race card. I've never hated on McNair, he is one of my favorite players in the league, fwiw.
If anything this proves why VY isn't there yet as a QB. You are comparing him to a running back. Hell Vick ran for over 1000 yards this year and his team isn't making the playoffs. You want a running QB? Be my guest, i'd take Leinart/Cutler any day. They can throw.
vince does not have a weak arm, and I've heard several analyst say its above average. but it doesn't matter because it isn't weak. he does not have a problem throwing any pro style pass. his arm being weak is a myth.
his throwing ability awful isn't awful, its inconsistent. just last week he threw for a 127 passer rating.
