I'd have been happy with Bush or VY. But the Texans' draft gaffe was of historical proportions, and I don't think it's inappropriate to continue to discuss it during a football season when both guys they passed on are kicking ass. I just remember so many Texan's apologists early on defending the MW pick and it's awfully funny how quiet they are now.
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Well how many people really defended the MW pick? I don't remember that many. Texans fans aren't being quiet, you can see that by reading the other forum.
MW isn't that bad. Its just that VY is a hell of alot better. Plus he can dance. You are portraying MW as a bust. That is a bit unfair.
Quite a few. I could go back in some of the old threads and pull up hundreds of posts of people after they drank the Texan's kool-aid praising the MW pick. I may do that one of these days if i'm really really bored.
I defended the pick, but now I think they probably made a mistake since Carr hasn't lived up to the contract given to him. I think Mario will be an outstanding DE, however.
I'm not saying he's a bust. He's a decent player. But he's not number one pick material in this draft, and the two guys the Texans passed on are so much significantly better (and with more potential) that he looks like a bust in comparison. Simply horrible draft choice by the Texans. And remember their smugness about how they knew so much more than all the fans and analysts? Well, it's funny to have watched them fall on their face. The best choice would have been to let Carr go and pick VY, but if you were bound and determined to keep Carr regardless, in my opinion you have to take Bush. All Carr is capable of doing is throw little dinky 6 yard passes. Imagine what Bush could do as the recipient of Carr's little passes. How the Texans chose to go with the worst possible option of the three still astounds me and virtually everyone else.
Mario Williams could turn out to be a good player for many years, its just the Texans management not giving the fans what they wanted. The Texans had a decent defense several years ago, what the hell happened? Vince Young has won his fans, even USC alumni like Vince Young, that's how special he is. The Texans have to win back us casual fans. I like watching NFL in general since the Oilers left, it was refreshing just watching a bunch of different teams every week on TV.
Why would you want to do that? Most of the people who praised the MW pick have since stated that they wish we would have taken Bush or Vince instead, so your little "nanny nanny boo-boo" schtick is....well..irrelevant, outdated and frankly a little dull. But I know the nanny nanny boo-boo post is your 'thing', so you just keep doing what you do...
Yeah, I remember the Young bowl. Oh wait, that was the Bush Bowl.... Williams has a good chance to turn out to be an incredible player. But still, I'm not to to support a mother****ing team from Tennessee even if The Texans had drafted Clay Aiken #1.
Another Honor for Vince, the Great... Doing all he can to keep his team in playoff contention, Tennessee's rookie quarterback threw two touchdown passes and rushed for another to engineer his fourth comeback in the fourth quarter or overtime in a 30-29 win at Buffalo. The win lifts Tennessee to 8-7 after beginning the season 0-5. Young, who is now 8-4 (.667) in 12 career starts, helped the Titans overcome a 29-20 deficit in the final 12 minutes. The rookie connected with receiver Brandon Jones for a 29-yard touchdown pass with 11:05 to play and then engineered a 14-play, 75-yard drive which resulted in a field goal with 2:10 left for the one-point lead and eventual victory. However, Young's most electrifying play came at the end of the first half, when he scored on a 36-yard keeper on a fourth-and-2. The No. 3 overall pick in last April's draft completed 13 of 20 passes for 183 yards with two TD passes without an interception for a glittering season-high 127.7 passer rating. Tennessee converted four of five third-down conversion tries in the fourth quarter. Two were Young scrambles and the other two came on the accuracy of his right arm. In his rookie year from Texas, this is the first Player of the Week Award for Young. nfl.com
Another good article... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Young has erased doubts over season QB exceeds own high expectations By JIM WYATT Staff Writer Vince Young had millions of reasons to be happy, but early in his first NFL season he wondered if it was all worth it. The Titans were winless and the rookie quarterback felt disharmony around him. It was so far from where he stood just a few months earlier, on top of the world at the University of Texas. "I was wondering if I should have stayed in college because of all the stuff going on,'' Young said Wednesday. "It was to the point that we were getting our butts whipped and all the stuff that was going on on the sideline. I was like, 'What is going on? What have I gotten myself into?' But at the same time it was a learning process for me and a learning process for the rest of the guys.'' In Week 4 the Titans changed quarterbacks. Young replaced veteran Kerry Collins and the team's fortunes dramatically improved. Heading into Sunday's regular season finale against the Patriots, the Titans (8-7) have won six games in a row and Young is 8-4 as the starter. Young admitted he's exceeded even his own expectations. After guiding the Longhorns to the national championship in January, he opted to give up his final year of college eligibility to enter the NFL Draft. He was selected No. 3 by the Titans, who signed him to a contract that could be worth up to $58 million. Young said he didn't necessarily regret his jump to the NFL when the Titans struggled early, but football certainly wasn't as much fun. "I wasn't questioning my decision. It was just like a joke — What is going on? What is going on? Should I have stayed at Texas for another year or something like that? It was kind of rough coming in," he said. "You are trying to fit yourself with a team and once you get behind (in games) you have guys pointing fingers. I didn't really see that where I came from at Texas. "Now you see the leaders … and you don't see what you saw at the beginning of the season. Basically we are having more fun as a team.'' Young said he brought "excitement" and "silliness" to the huddle. He obviously brought a lot more. Player of the week In last Sunday's 30-29 victory over the Bills, Young threw for two touchdowns and ran for one. On Wednesday he was named AFC Offensive Player of the Week for the first time. He's thrown for 1,972 yards and rushed for 523 this season, becoming the first rookie quarterback ever to reach 500 rushing yards. He's also the first player in NFL history with three rushing touchdowns of 20 yards or longer and three touchdown passes of 20 yards or longer in his rookie season. "He's hard to deal with,'' Patriots Coach Bill Belichick said. "He does a lot of things well and he's difficult for any defense to stop. We've seen that from some of the best defenses in this league already. Baltimore is a good example. All the teams have had trouble with him.'' Young is also considered one of the leading candidates for Offensive Rookie of the Year, an award which will be announced next week. "To be the third pick overall with all the hype he was in a tough situation, coming into a team that had been losing the last couple of years,'' Titans wide receiver Drew Bennett said. "But I think he handled it well. You could tell early on that losing is not OK with him and he demonstrated that with how frustrated he got. It was genuine frustration, though, and you knew he was going to do something about it.'' During the six-game winning streak, four of the wins were come-from-behind. "We had all seen him do it before, he just did it at another level,'' Titans linebacker Keith Bulluck said. "What is great is how comfortable he is feeling at this level and how quickly he is feeling comfortable at this level.'' Hard work and progress The Titans have to beat the Patriots (11-4) to have a chance to make it into the AFC playoffs, but need favorable results in three other games as well. Young plans on doing his part. "There was never a doubt in my mind that I wasn't going to be successful in the NFL. It was just how long it was going to take and how much I was willing to work,'' Young said. "I really feel like all the hard work behind the scenes … has helped my progress.'' link
This is a real good one... By Bomani Jones Page 2 This year, Vince Young's life has been all about the Rose Bowl. Not just because of what he accomplished there, but because his 2006 has been a lot like that game. He jumped out to an early lead, was jerked back to earth around halftime, but he hit the homestretch in stride and, against nearly every expert prediction, emerged as the biggest winner of the year. The Rose Bowl is the prettiest feather in Young's cap, but it's just part of the story of Young's 2006. It's a tale of triumph, embarrassment and, for lack of a better term, redemption that speaks to the power of poise, perseverance and personality. And while the ink is still drying on the 2006 chapter of his story, it is clear that no one did more in the last 12 months than Vincent Paul Young Jr. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The story begins in Pasadena on Jan. 4. Young led Texas to an epic victory over Southern California, ensuring his Longhorns will be remembered as one of the greatest teams of all time (No. 3, according to Richard Billingsley's College Football Ranking System) and that Young will be considered one of, if not the, greatest clutch player in college football history. There was so much more to Young's performance that night than his eye-popping 267 passing yards and 200 rushing yards. He entered the game upset at his second-place showing in the Heisman voting, which was a landslide in favor of USC's Reggie Bush. The Longhorns came into the Rose Bowl as 7½-point underdogs against a team expected to win an unprecedented third straight national championship and a place in the annals of immortality. Remember how it played out? Texas jumped to a 16-7 lead then spit the bit in the second half and fell behind 38-26, only to ride Young and his mojo to a 41-38 victory. AP Photo/John Russell All Vince Young did in 2006 was win football games -- and silence critics. Young accounted for every yard on Texas' game-winning drive – 36 with his passing and the other 20 rushing. On what was certain to be the Longhorns' last play, he kept the ball on fourth-and-goal from the 8-yard line and dashed toward the pylon on the right side of the field, leaving two USC defenders helpless to stop his irresistible force from taking the championship from them. When the game ended, Young became immortal, a permanent fixture in future discussions of big-money performances. He effectively took the Heisman away from Reggie Bush in much the manner Hakeem Olajuwon took the NBA MVP away from David Robinson in the 1995 Western Conference finals. The Longhorns were loaded with talent, with (by my count) 17 other players who will cash NFL paychecks. And yet, even though the Longhorns were that deep and that balanced, they needed Young to be their compass. They knew he was the reason the analysts were no longer saying that Texas was too soft to win a big game. After the game, a friend, an Oklahoma diehard, said he'd cried watching Young lead Texas to the national championship. Was he just hating, seeing how the 'Horns had beaten the brakes off his Sooners earlier that season? No. He said, "I cried because he made me proud as a black man." Never had a black quarterback done anything like this. Never had a black quarterback used such a grand stage to undermine the stereotypes that kept black folks from under center for years. This was bigger than Doug Williams' performance in Super Bowl XXII, in which Williams' four second-quarter touchdown passes were supported by a great Redskins defense and 204 rushing yards from Timmy Smith. In the national championship game, Young did it all, accounting for 467 of Texas' 556 yards (84 percent) of total offense. If only the old-timers who believed that black quarterbacks lacked the fortitude, focus and intelligence to be leaders of men had seen Young in the Rose Bowl. If only they had seen him complete passes to seven different receivers, working through his progressions and going to his check-downs. If only they had seen Young repeatedly make every right decision. If only they had seen Young's underdog team be steadied by his hand after each of USC's best shots. They'd have a few things to reconsider. Young was that good, that inspiring. But, a few weeks later, word got out that Young was stupid. At the NFL scouting combine in February, Young was rumored to have scored a 6 out of 50 on the Wonderlic, an aptitude test NFL teams use to assess major cognitive abilities. To put a 6 in perspective, a score of 10 indicates that someone is "literate." And just that quickly, questions flew about Vince's intelligence. Not just whether he was intelligent enough to play quarterback, but whether he could even read. The chatter surrounding the draft had his stock plummeting, and his 4.58-second 40-yard dash at Texas' pro day – lower than expected – didn't help. Not only did people think he was dumb (it was later reported that he actually scored a 16), but they found out he might not be as athletic as previously believed. Neither point meant much of anything. The Wonderlic rumor suggested that Young might not be the man to sit next to if you planned to cheat on a midterm exam, but no one gives midterms in the NFL. And his 40 time said nothing about how Young can create running lanes with a pump fake, how tacklers bounce off him as if he is surrounded by a force field, or how well he is served by his uncanny knack for knowing when to pull down the pigskin and take off. Young was drafted third by the Tennessee Titans. Many figured he wouldn't see the field for at least two years. By Week 4, he was starting. The Titans were 0-3 when he took over, and it looked certain that they would finish with one of the worst records in the league. They're 8-7 now. The roster is as spotty as it was in Week 3, but they're winning. Why? Because Vince wins. His numbers aren't spectacular. He has a lower quarterback rating (69.7) than every starter in the league other than Bruce Gradkowski and Andrew Walter (and the newly benched Joey Harrington). He hasn't completed a pass as long as 40 yards all season. But he's led four game-winning, fourth-quarter drives. He embarrassed the Texans – his hometown team and the franchise that paid David Carr an $8 million roster bonus instead of drafting Young with the top pick – with a 39-yard touchdown run in overtime that showed the same burst and savvy as his last play in the Rose Bowl. Under Young's watch, the Titans have defeated five playoff contenders and suffered one-point losses to two others. He put together one of the most amazing fourth-quarter comebacks in league history, leading Tennessee to a 24-21 victory over the Giants after the Titans were down 21-0 with less than 10 minutes to play. And going into the season's final weekend, the Titans are a win – and losses by three teams – away from the playoffs. He's winning in the NFL in the same way he won in college. It's the way his face rarely changes, how his game can suffer through the air until a big pass is needed the most, how he's not blazingly fast but seems to run past linebackers as if they're running up a "down" escalator. And it seems like he always does enough, whether that means throwing a touchdown pass or setting up a winning 60-yard field goal (like he did against the Colts in Week 13). He always seems to be under control, and he always seems to know how to make his team better. And no one did that in 2006 like Vince Young. link
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after being chosen NFL Offensive Player of the Week on Tuesday, VY, the GREAT, followed up with his fourth Rookie of the week award in the last five weeks. http://www.nfl.com/rookies/vote
