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VY, the GREAT

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by thegary, Dec 1, 2006.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    im 99999 years old. eternal. you happy now grasshopper?
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    tinman is like the biggest fan of vernon maxwell eva. I'm sure he saw the oilers play
     
  3. tinman

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    Pinkett's previews baby!
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  4. Icehouse

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    Even if tinman wasn't a fan of the Oilers, what does that have to do with HIM not liking the Texans (for whatever reason) or liking the Titans (for whatever reason)?
     
  5. twinmemory

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    favorite "sports sunday" memory ever: pinkett doing elvis.....anyone else remember that?
     
  6. updawg

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    Another good article about VY in todays statesman.... :)
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    Titans assistant Chow thrilled to tutor Young
    Quarterback 'can redefine' position, offensive coordinator says.
    By Teresa M. Walker

    ASSOCIATED PRESS


    Thursday, December 14, 2006

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Norm Chow knows a thing or two about quarterbacks. Vince Young is showing him something he's never seen before.

    "I think he can almost, corny as it sounds, redefine what the quarterback position should be like because he's so big and he throws the ball well and he can run," Chow said Wednesday of the Tennessee Titans' rookie quarterback.

    Want to accelerate the development of a quarterback in the NFL?

    The Titans have done just that by pairing an offensive coordinator with a history of churning out Heisman Trophy winners with a physically gifted rookie. But Young has surprised even the Titans with how quickly he has learned, and he's very self-motivated.

    "Basically, it's a work in progress for me. I'm not finished yet," Young said.

    "I'm not satisfied."

    The only question now seems to be how good will Young be eventually. For his part, Chow has been talking to Titans coach Jeff Fisher about how to help Young continue improving, and he sees seemingly unlimited potential.

    "He's making such big plays. Maybe the plays come more in the frame of what happens, so these spectacular plays become less and less, and the ordinary, consistent type plays will get more consistent, get more plentiful," Chow said.

    Young has provided plenty of jaw-dropping plays leading three straight comeback victories.

    He became the first rookie quarterback to lead his team to consecutive wins from 14 points down, including a 21-0 deficit to the New York Giants. He has the NFL record for yards rushing by a rookie quarterback with 458, topping the 408-yard mark set by Chicago's Bobby Douglass in 1969.

    Young can't catch Ben Roethlisberger's league record of 13 wins as a rookie quarterback. But he can tie Hall of Famer Dan Marino and teammate Kerry Collins for fifth for most wins by a rookie starting quarterback since 1970 if the Titans (6-7) beat Jacksonville (8-5) on Sunday.

    His most amazing play yet was his 39-yard touchdown run in overtime at Houston last week. It was the second longest TD in overtime by a quarterback, behind Michael Vick's 46-yard sprint on Dec. 1, 2002 at Minnesota, and sixth longest overall.

    The 60-year-old Chow has tweaked the offense, using plays that use Young's arm and his legs or those the rookie has absorbed easily: more shotgun in the offense to give the rookie extra time to make decisions, or even some option runs like he used in college at Texas.

    Young surprised Fisher with his progress, and the coach made him the starter on Oct. 1 against Dallas.

    "I don't think I've seen a young quarterback learn as fast as he did," Fisher said. "He's got the poise, composure and ability to stay calm in critical situations and make plays."
     
  7. tinman

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    Great article,
    I'm proud to see a fellow Rockets fan and supporter like Vince Young do well.
    Clutchfans should always support Clutchfans. If Meowgi sold tacos from his car, I would buy them.
     
  8. Rocket River

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    LOl

    It is a Good Article though

    Rocket RIver
     
  9. KingCheetah

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    Not against the Rockets obviously, but for example when Drexler faced off against Jordan and the Bulls in the championship I was rooting for him 100%.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    LMFAO, fatsy, if you'd read any of tinman's posts you'd realize that he was actually cryogenically frozen at some point between 1986 and 1995 and only recently thawed out after Juwan Howard acidentally clicked the "defrost" button.
     
  11. the futants

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    classic.
     
  12. MR. MEOWGI

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    For us it's not against the Texans.

    Titans fans suck.
     
  13. rsx_htown

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    sounds to me that all you people complaining about us supporting vince over the texans are aggies
     
  14. Kam

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    sounds like people are riding his nuts cause he went to UT, but then again, they've always been Oilers fans.

    I rode his nuts at UT, but he left UT already. That was then. This is the pros. I learned how to separate "amateur" and professional.

    Did anybody hit on Ricky Williams Bongs when he was drafted by New Orleans?

    Yeah, yeah, I know Vince > Ricky Williams, that's why I wanted Vince on the Texans. He's a special player.

    The Texans are the team I root for. The Titans are not. I like Vince Young, but, not vs the Texans.
     
  15. KingCheetah

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    CBS in Austin is now going to air all Vince Young games!

    Go VY :cool:
     
  16. MR. MEOWGI

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    Don't you mean Titans games? :confused:

    Titans and Spurs country. Nothing is :cool:er than that.
     
  17. KingCheetah

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    MR. MEOWGI ~ bleeding Texans battle red since October 2006.
     
  18. updawg

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    with steel blue nuts....

    another non-believer, but he will learn one day....

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    Hoge criticizes Young for not passing in OT


    By DAVID BARRON
    Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

    The first thing we should establish this morning is that, contrary to public belief, ESPN analyst Merril Hoge doesn't hate Vince Young.

    "He's an impressive kid," Hoge said. "I think he's a good kid. ... I don't hate Vince Young. I've never said that I hate Vince Young."

    The second thing we should establish is that Hoge thinks Young arguably made the wrong decision when he ran for the touchdown that beat the Texans in overtime last Sunday.

    We'll pause for a moment for you to laugh, scream, throw items about the room or shake your head at what you might justifiably consider the absurdity of it all.

    If you need more time, go to youtube.com and check out the video titled Vince vs. Hoge, a collection of Hoge's recent comments about the Titans quarterback coupled with game footage. It's almost four minutes long. Take your time.

    Welcome back. When he checked in Tuesday, Hoge was looking at end zone coaching tape from the Texans-Titans game in preparation for ESPN's NFL Matchup show at 7:30 p.m. Sunday. He was watching with a critical eye, which is his job.

    What he saw convinces him that Young could have won the game Sunday with his arm, not his legs. It also reinforces his belief that Young has miles to go before becoming a polished quarterback who can take the Titans to a Super Bowl.

    On the overtime play in question, "The guy I'm looking at is the slot receiver, No. 19 (Bobby Wade)," Hoge said. "He runs a great route. If that ball comes out, (Wade) probably scores.

    "This says a lot about where (Young) is as a quarterback. He is not sure of coverages and where to throw the football. ... The thing I have said from the start is that he faces a monumental learning curve, and that has not changed."

    Young got a boost Sunday, Hoge said, from the Texans' defensive breakdowns. Houston rushed seven players, leaving one-on-one coverage for each of Tennessee's four receivers — a situation called "zero coverage."

    When the Titans picked up the blitz, the defense had no deep help.

    Hoge isn't demeaning the value of Young's physical skills that contributed to the winning TD. His point is that for Young to be a championship quarterback, he will have to do so as a pocket passer and that his understanding of the game, at this point, is insufficient for him to attain that goal.

    "The question is can you win a championship, not can you go 6-7 (the Titans' record)," he said. "I don't think the Titans drafted him to go 8-8. They drafted him to win a championship.

    "But for that to happen, it's going to take a significant time. Right now, they're not asking him to win games. They're doing a good job building him mentally and not putting him in bad situations."

    Hoge also believes good defenses, such as the Jacksonville Jaguars defense that Young faces Sunday, will not make the same mistakes the Texans, Colts, Giants and Eagles made during the Titans' four-game win streak.
     
  19. MadMax

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    Jaworski looks at Hoge in one of those videos and says, "why are you making this so personal??" to Hoge. VY owns Hoge.

    Oh...and Hoge is wrong. On that play he goes back to pass...he goes through reads. Even if he has an open receiver, he had TONS of running room ahead of him. He only needs about 6 yards on that play to put his team in FG position. They need only a FG to win the game. They don't have to have a TD. Hoge would have him loft it up downfield in that scenario. I don't think so. You know the weapons at your disposal and you use them.
     
  20. The Real Shady

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    I envision VY and the Titans winning a Super Bowl in a couple of years and Hoge will still be making excuses. Like VY benefited from a weak year in the NFL. He would have never been able to do that against the '85 Bears.
     

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