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VY, the GREAT

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by thegary, Dec 1, 2006.

  1. DonnyMost

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  2. Uprising

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    QB position is the least of our worries.

    So, I guess there is a correlation with scoring so low on that test? (Wonderlic?). Mental aptitude...
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Most even handed post in this thread.

    DD
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    We could always use another TE. I hear we're down to only 7 of them now.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    None of them is as good as OD, though Dressen had a good game. TEs are big in this offense.
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    I believe OD is done.

    Dreessen and Casey are the future.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    <object width="384" height="216" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" id="ESPN_VIDEO" data="http://espn.go.com/videohub/player/embed.swf" allowScriptAccess="always" allowNetworking="all"><param name="movie" value="http://espn.go.com/videohub/player/embed.swf" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"/><param name="wmode" value="opaque"/><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"/><param name="allowNetworking" value="all"/><param name="flashVars" value="id=5838197"/></object>

    Interesting.

    DD
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    Well, looks like he lied about not tossing his pads into the crowd.
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    VY is doing damage control...
     
  10. DaDakota

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    True true, and Fisher exaggerated about him throwing his uniform in the stands.....

    I think he is clearly frustrated, and probably very aware that Fisher doesn't want or like him as his QB.

    Anyway, why should any Texan's fan care, this is great news for them.

    DD
     
  11. Uprising

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    What did dd post? Is it a video? I'm on my phone nothing is showing. Can't wait to upgrade from my blackberry next week.
     
  12. TheDreams

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    After reflecting on the messy events during and after Sunday's loss to the Washington Redskins, quarterback Vince Young said his biggest issue with Jeff Fisher is that the Tennessee coach lacked the confidence in him to return to the game when Young thought he could have played with his thumb injury.

    "It was very frustrating," Young said in a Sunday night telephone conversation.

    Young's comments followed an emotional day in which he was booed, injured his thumb, threw his shoulder pads into the stands, reportedly verbally sparred with Fisher in the locker room -- saying he was walking out on the coach, not the team -- and stormed out of LP Field without talking to the media. He isn't showing a lot of leadership for someone is supposed to be a great leader.

    Fisher said afterward Sunday that Young had lost his hold on the Titans' starting quarterback position.

    Young said he knows he made mistakes dealing with the situation Sunday and didn't react the way he should have. But he said his frustration of not playing and not having Fisher's faith had built up to the point in which he didn't know how to handle it. He now knows he did not handle matters the right way.

    "It was just an awkward situation," Young said. "I just want to play football. I want to win games. I want to go to the Super Bowl. That's it."

    Young, who tore the flexor tendon in his right thumb late in the third quarter and was replaced by rookie Rusty Smith, left for the locker room after being hurt but returned to the sideline and had the thumb taped and re-taped in an effort to return. He even tried a glove, but Fisher stuck with Smith.

    What made it even more frustrating, Young said, was that the Titans opted to go with quarterback Kerry Collins in Week 10 against the Miami Dolphins when Young felt like he was physically ready to start.

    Young also has had to endure a season in which he has had to battle through various ailments, from a sprained ankle he suffered during a Monday night win over Jacksonville to the thumb injury he incurred Sunday that led to an MRI on Monday morning.

    Meanwhile, Young denied throwing his jersey in the stands, as was widely reported. He said he was simply giving it to the daughter of longtime Titans executive vice president Don MacLachlan.

    "She's been very supportive of me and I wanted to give it to her as a sign of thanks because she knows what I'm going through," Young said.

    Young also denied throwing "half his uniform" in the stands, as Fisher said his quarterback did after the game. "I throw my shoes into the stands after every game, my hat into the stands after every game, my wristbands into the stands after every game," Young said. "If it's a problem, I'll pay for my jersey."

    When the team gathered in the locker room following the loss, Young began muttering and cursing under his breath as Fisher addressed the team, the Tennessean reported Sunday night.

    After Fisher asked Young to be quiet, the paper said, the quarterback finished dressing and prepared to leave the room. Fisher told Young to stop and not to "run out on your teammates," sources told The Tennessean. Young told Fisher, "I'm not running out on my teammates, I'm running out on you," the paper said.

    Fisher admitted he and Young spoke in the locker room, but wouldn't discuss what was said.

    "That is between me and him and the team," Fisher said.

    Young then left the locker room and ignored media members as Titans safety and former University of Texas teammate Michael Griffin chased after him. The Tennessean reported that Griffin was seen confronting Young in the players' parking lot.

    Griffin reportedly pleaded with Young, "You can't leave, you can't do this," before Young shrugged and left.

    Griffin denied chasing after Young, but multiple media outlets reported witnessing the incident. Griffin did say that he hoped people can set aside their egos and personal feelings so they could stick together as a team.

    Young also said that Griffin did not chase him up the tunnel. "But I was upset with the way I was being treated and I just needed to get out of there," he said.

    Young said he is frustrated and bewildered at the criticism now being leveled at him.

    "It is not just me. It falls back on me, but I don't know how to respond to it when it's not just me. I'm outnumbered right now," he said.


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5838293&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines

    That is Vince Young's problem right there. He just lacks accountability. When people read and hear about you yelling at your coach and then walking out on your teammates, in what other way is everyone going to react to that? I agree that there are two sides to the story, but he loses a lot of credibility when he throws a fit like that. He isn't showing a lot of leadership for someone who is supposed to be strong in that department.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Agreed but why is it ok for the coach to do the yelling etc and the player not to be frustrated?

    Seems to be a bit of a double standard there.

    I am not saying what Young did was right, but the way Fisher has been yanking him in and out of games etc...you can tell why he might be a tad bit frustrated.

    ESPN video interview with Shefter...

    DD
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    This is why we care.
     
  15. Pistol Pete

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    Since DD is going down in flames riding VY's jock in this thread, I think he needs to bolt from writing his thoughts to the (n)ever popular DD's internet video commentary. That ought to contribute a boatload of chuckles....
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Hey, it is time for another one, thanks for reminding me.....what a great pal.

    Yeah, lots of impartial posts by you in this thread...lol...

    ;)

    DD
     
  17. Pistol Pete

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    No problem. Glad that I could help.
     
  18. Baseballa

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    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20101121/COLUMNIST0202/101121019/-1/WORKAROUND01

    Rusty Smith
    Nate Washington
    Please tell me if my burnt orange glasses are making these quotes more than they are, but do they seem weird to anyone else?

    A coach telling the media that a rookie QB will now lead the team, before even telling the rookie? Your team's most productive receiver saying that he doesn't know what to do after the coach publicly benches the starting QB?

    Just seems odd to me.
     
  19. TheDreams

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    You are right, he should be frustrated that Fisher has no trust in him. But there is a difference between being frustrated and voicing those frustrations, to walking out and quitting on your team.
     
  20. rockbox

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    I'm not saying what VY did was right. He definitely could have handled it better but Fisher is a turd.
     

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