Pretty much. Look. I'm by no means a huge Carr fan, but to think the Texans are going to give up on him for VY is a ridiculous sentiment. It simply isn't going to happen.
It was consensually obvious that the Oilers needed a QB when we drafted him. He started immediately. Any Oiler fan remembers this.
Huh? In his first year, he played a total of 6 games, throwing 80 passes (13 per game). Chris Chandler, by comparison, threw 356 passes, while Will Furrer (who?) threw 99. In his second year, he played a total of 10 games, throwing 143 passes (14 per game). Chandler threw 320 passes that season. Unless McNair started, played the 1st quarter, and got benched in each game, he certainly did not start immediately. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti1995.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti1996.htm
Chandler played a number of years of effective football post the drafting of McNair. The Chandler-McNair situation is similar except for one very important part, the contract Carr has is nothing like Chandler's. What we do know if they have paid for one. We will see if all that dough to Bush and Carr will pan out. Time will tell. The bar from last year is pretty low so unless they completely suck there should be visable improvement the next couple of years. Tenn has a much better track record than the Texans. Even when the Titans kinda suck they don't do it as bad and win most head to head. They have added some excellent FA in Givens (much younger than Moulds), Hope (best young FA safety) plus two more AFC starters. The trouble with McNair, which could be resolved, hardly qualifies as "imploding". They have a good back-up (Volek) who very well could bridge them until their next QB--be in ML, VY or possibly Cutler, it makes some sense to part with McNair, unless they trade VY and this is key to stability/tutorlidge. We should not pretend no matter what happens draft day the Texans have a better outlook than Tenn. Carr & Bush have a lot they will have to show to make any objective person feel better about the Texans prospects versus the Titans. I personally really hope VY doesn't go to Tenn because I want them to crash and burn, but I wouldn't bet on either part (VY going elsewhere OR Tenn crashing).
The NFL Players Association filed a grievance against the Titans on behalf of Steve McNair http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2404196&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
Leave the Vince vs. Reggie debate for the other thread with 60,000 replies. This song/video is hilarious, no matter who we draft.
OK, I thought you were serious. On a serious note, I realy, really don't want Vince Young to go to Tenn. Anyone else semi-realistic (NO, NYJ, Oak, Det, Az) is fine. I'd really love the Cowboys to move to get him, but I see the cost as too great and thus extremely unlikely.
There have been unique talents in the past that have led HOF careers, without winning on the biggest stage. Whoever gets Vince, better get the right peices around him. Football is the ultimate team sport. He might be able to will his way in close games, but 1 man does not win it all and 1 man is never above the team. Will Vince adapt his game to fit the team or will the team adapt their system to best utilize Vince's strengths? I see the latter. I don't sweat Vince going to Tenn and hope it happens.
Carr is not very good. Let's face it. The Texans ruined his career by letting him get sacked so much. He'll always be too rush consious. And, besides that, he sucks. Any QB that has thrown more interceptions than TD's after what is it 3 years? sucks in my opinion.
Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, Drew Bledsoe, Dan Fouts, Bob Griese, Archie Manning, Don Meredith, Warren Moon, Joe Namath, Jim Plunkett, Phil Simms and Joe Theismann would beg to differ. And it's 4 years, btw.