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Vspan Update from Panathinaikos Paper

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket G, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. IC2000

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    WOW. He is clearly better then those guys. WTF? :confused: :confused:
     
  2. hooroo

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    or the bigger picture, he doesn't want to head into the Olympics not having played for two consecutive seasons.
     
  3. dntrwl

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    ya Span has proved what again? Oh he proved JVG didn't like him thats about it. Have no clue in hell why people are so convinced he is so great when he hasn't shown close to it when we've seen him. I guess everyone here is Psychic with their powers they can foretell the future obviously.
     
  4. Ehsan

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    Honest question.

    Are you going to blame JVG for sticking to his game plan if V-Span doesn't come back or will you be at least somewhat willing to concede that V-Span has character issues that are not beneficial to a winning team.
     
  5. blender

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    If the Rockets are sticking with Rafer and James for PG, then I hope VSpan does stick around. I'd rather give him a chance as a third PG or, if he proves himself, possibly higher, over Lucas or Head. And maybe once in while, we can try VSpan at the 1 and James at 2?
     
  6. SpiffyRifi

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    It's not similar at all. First off, he still makes millions here in the NBA regardless of how much he pays. Second, most people here seem to think he has an amazing set of skills - so if he can show those skills presumably he won't be on the bench much longer. Third, the CEO of the promising medium sized company wouldn't really aspire to move over to the biggest company in the country, but a promising foreign player WOULD aspire to come to the NBA and succeed. Fourth, unlike a promising company, no matter what happens the euroleauge will never be able to compete with the NBA in terms of which one is the bigger stage for baskeball.

    Its not the same thing. All I was saying is that is V-Span truly wants to be a big time basketball player he'll need to prove himself in the NBA. If he breaks his contract now, I don't think you'll ever see him in the NBA. If he is the competitor everyone on this board makes him out to be, I don't think its the "logical" choice that he would burn bridges with the Rockets now. Its all about having his feelings hurt now, logic doesn't play into it.
     
  7. Fuse

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    He does have character issues, but at the same time, he does bring to the table things that we lack.

    Although despite saying that. I am getting sick of all his b****ing and moaning, and hope that we can just get this over with.
     
  8. denniscd

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    he does not have character issues...he has skill issues. he has talent issues. he is turnover prone, shoots erratically at best, and is not a great finisher. plus he is foul prone....

    he has some strengths as well...but its not his character holding him back...its his game. and the guys ahead of him last year were clearly better except lucas....no matter how much you dog rafer, he has proven to be a decent to solid nba player
     
  9. TECH

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    I'd rather hear about Vspan working hard on his game, in hopes of earning some playing time, and striving to be the best.
    Instead, he seems to be a whining quiter.
     
  10. DonkeyMagic

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    aint that the truth.
     
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    Rafer is a scary thought, but why exhaust so much what seems like an overly-emotional player. With almost any new positon in any field, you have to bust your tail to in order to obtain respect. This is new territory, basketball in the NBA is another leverl If span wants to flake out after a year, and back out on his supposed "dream" of playing in the nba, then good riddance to him. That does not mean we should keep rafer or that us fans should feel comfortable with him
     
  12. Deuce

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    Vspan isn't a great finisher? Does that include drawing fouls?
     
  13. rocketshopeful

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    sorry for the poor grammar, on a break at work. corrected above.
     
  14. earth

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    No doubt Vspan is a good player, but ruined by JVG
     
  15. rhester

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    Rafer and James should come off the bench.

    VSpan should compete and earn some minutes.

    We have some decent back ups.
    We need a quality starting PG that can keep up with Parker, Williams, Nash and Terry.
     
  16. Tha TC

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    exactly the point... everybody just doesnt seem to see that though... hopefully he stays and can do what he did for Panathinaikos
     
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    JL3 is really as good as iverson...but jvg ruined him too :mad:
     
  18. Yetti

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    For the ones that just don't get it- V Span has talent - shown when he ran circles around our American team. If you review the tape of this game where Greece defeated the United States of America you can't come away from it without knowing that V.Span is a very talented player.
    JVG has a limited ability to incorporate players into his game plan so V.Span and Novac languished on the bench. Neither of them gained sufficient experience playing the NBA game last season that this upcomong season , if they are still on the team, will be just like a rookie season all over again but this time with a coach who might give them a chance to develop. :p
     
  19. Tha TC

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    BINGO
     
  20. DaDakota

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    This is a tough question to answer. I think V-Span will share a good portion of the blame if he weenies out and doesn't come back. There are tons of Euro players that come over and take a little while to adjust, some even have to be traded to a team that is a better fit for them to succeed.

    I do think that V-Span was promised something, and believes that the organization lied to him, but all that being said, he is a man and he signed a contract, he has to work hard to get his minutes.

    I don't for a minute believe that JVG ruined V-Span, I think that JVG played the guys HE THOUGHT gave him the best chance of winning, I just don't happen to agree with JVG's thinking.

    But, if V-Span doesn't come back, after getting a coach that has proven to be a great developer of Euro talent and whose system fits V-Span to a tee....then good riddance.

    V-Span needs to toughen up, if you think about it, the Rockets PG situation is still pretty crappy, and this leaves a massive opening for V-Span to take advantage of, but you can't do it if you are going to choose the easy way out and stay in Greece.

    I want him back, because I believe he will develop into a very good player, but he needs to come back ready to work hard, and to push the competition in training camp.

    So, to answer you question - I do blame JVG for not developing him, but JVG was doing what he thought was best, I just happen to disagree with that approach as I think it is extremely short sighted. And Yes, V-Span is a big part of the problem if he decides to wuss out and go back to Greece. That would be cowardly, IMO.

    DD
     

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