VSPAN could barely contain himself on the Bench !!

It all starts with Yao getting good shots without Juwan's defender sagging in on him. Juwan is the wrong fit, I'm sorry. But when he is out there, everybody is under the gun because Yao isn't going to get clean looks and we are going to pile up turnovers and rushed shots trying to get him the rock.

You wanna know why Juwan is a great entry passer. Because the defender sags inbetween him and Yao so that he can defend the jump shot Juwan puts up and at the same time if Juwan dumps the ball to Yao he can take one step down into Yao's breadbasket. All they have to do is force Yao to take that shot against 2 defenders without being able to put the ball on the floor, or they force him to throw it out.....typically to Juwan who then has to make the choice to hurry up his jumper stroke, and miss, or throw it around and we have to take a shot much later in the shot clock. When Juwan is on the floor, the defenders can go into attack mode. And when Juwan is on the floor for more than 10 mpg, his slowness gets even slower and his feet get even flatter if that's possible and he gets even more anchored down to one spot on the floor.

Yao and Juwan on the floor together is TERRIBLE.

 

agreed. I think we all underestimated the importance of chuck "the janitor" hayes, not only on defense and boards but also doing the little things offensively that free up the big man and get us easy buckets (have you ever seen the janitor take a shot that isnt a wide open layup?). When a team has a run like the spurs did, you've got to attack the rim and force a foul or create open oppurtunities. That can come through Yao, but yao had trouble getting clean posessions late due to constant "potential" doubles of j-ho. That being said, even with juwan in in the first half and begining of the second, the offense looked pretty clean. I don't know if the spurs adjusted or we got tired, but i think the the v-span option would still be useful, not only because of slashing and D, but because, if you remember the quotes from the preseason, yao is kinda in love with his entry passes and he looks for the big man agressively.

Free Billy.

 

I don't know why you guys are getting all bent out of shape about Vspan's lack of playing time. Van Gundy never wanted Vspan. He also made it very clear that the media and fans had too many expectations where Vspan was concerned and he would immediately be doing damage control by not playing him. He had too if he plays Vspan and he performs well than Van Dummy will have no excuse not to play the greek he never wanted and thus will look like the idiot he is and risk being fired. But by not playing KillBill Van r****d still leaves some doubt albeit very little he is not an idiot. Could you imagine if Van Baldy had played Vspan last night and he put a stop to SA's surge and helped the Rockets win. Billy would have been raised to martyrdom and when Van Stupid proceeded to put him back on the pine the lynching would have been next. So in spite of the fact that I call Van Gundy r****d, stupid, idiot Van Crappy is smart enough to know he can't play Billy if he later intends to put him back on the bench in spite of KillBill's good efforts. Smart move Jeffy... props to you.

 

hahahah

Van r****d
Van Baldy
Van Crappy
Jeffy

 

As much as I want V-Span to get some PT like most of you on this board, I can't help but imagine when he actually Does get some PT and stinks it up. I can already see the "Trade V-Span" or "V-Span to NBDL" or "Sell V-Span back to Greece" threads.

 

Actually if JVG has no intention of playing V-SPan he should send him to the NBDL.

DD

 

JVG has a repeated history of not playing European players as well as not playing Rookies. Why should this be a surprise to anyone?

 

Yao and T-Mac were probably tired. Yao especially must have been (and probably still is) feeling the Shaq treatment. I have no idea why our subs didn't play more.

 

Absolutely! It's like a tornado shelter: if you don't build it ahead of time, you won't have it when you really need it.

 

You're not the only one wishing that.

 

Maybe CD will balk at that. I have a feeling VSpan was rammed down JVG's reluctant throat. (I remember all those dismissive comments by JVG during the summer.) It wouldn't surprise me if CD was listening.

 

VSpan would play if anyone ahead of him was worse than him.

The only guard he's better than is Lucas.

If anything, Head will receive more minutes before VSpan ever sniffs the rotation.

 

Guys, remember that we are not JVG.
V-Span and Novak are not in the doghouse. JVG just wants to prepare them as well as possible since they are still learning a lot about NBA.

Once JVG thinks they are ready, JVG will start to insert them into the rotation. This goes the same with Bonzi Wells.

I can totally understand JVG on this one, unlike some of you guys. There is no need to rush them to play real games right now. I bet by mid season, they have already been in the rotation, even though maybe it's only a short minutes.

 

VSpan was good enough to beat a really stacked United States team. Don't you think it's a wee bit premature to dismiss him?

 

Spanoulis in the pre-season averaged almost as many turnovers as he does points (?!). The fact is that he was giving the ball up to the other team almost 4 times as many times as he was taking it from them :

20.1 mpg
5.1 ppg
3.4 assists
4.1 to's (in 20 mins!)
1.1 steals


... just sayin'.

 

Chuck Hayes and Luther Head don't count?

 

This Bboard is getting very pathetic everytime we lose a game. People start to blame everything. Now this Spurs loss make people blame Rafer, calling JVG stupid, baldy, etc for not playing V-Span.

I still can't believe some of you guys always do something like that when we lose A game.

If you really use your head well, you should know the reason we lose to Spurs is not because JVG is very stupid and does not play V-Span.

 

Those guys weren't BORN in Europe and those were JVG picks so NO they don't count.

 

There just isn't any room for V-SPAN in the rotation. You got Head, Snyder, bonzi and possibly Sura, who are all vets and probably will get the nod before Vassiliss. JVG isn't going to play rookies unless there are injuries (hayes, head). Also, those preseason stats, Dr. of Dunk posted, just shows you another reason why JVG isn't playing him.

V-Span has game, but he isn't ready yet. You guys are acting like we are 1-5 and our rotation right now isn't getting it done. Wake up folks, we are 5-3 and damn near blew out the Spurs. Those blow outs against the Mavs and Heat sure didn't bring up any questions about the rotation. But then we choke against the Spurs and all of a sudden everyone is in panic mode. Just calm down, there is no reason to get all bent over JVG not playing our rookies when it is 8 GAMES into the season. Right now is way too early to start complaining about anything going on with our roster. We should just be glad we are 5-3 and our two main players are healthy.

 

International rules is suited to his game, for now.

It's a HUGE learning curve he's facing. It'll take at least this year, if not longer.

Right now, there's just no room for him. Everybody that's playing deserves minutes more than he does right now.

He wasn't even impressive in preseason. He showed sparks but is still a long-term project.