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VSPAN could barely contain himself on the Bench !!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by zcity, Nov 15, 2006.

  1. DaDakota

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    I would put him in at the 2 guard spot and use his DEFENSE...

    DD
     
  2. Tb-Cain

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    Wow.

    Rafer hit 50% of his shots, 50% from 3pt range, had 2 steals, committed just 2 turnovers and 1 foul in 41 minutes of play. That's a lot of PT with only 2 turnovers and 1 foul.

    Meanwhile, Luther Head hit 25% of his shots and committed 4 turnovers in just 24 minutes.

    TMac was 40% from the field, Yao was 33% from the field, Battier scored just 5 points, excluding Rafer, the team shot 34% from the floor.

    But somehow, we're going to single out Rafer?

    Oh yeah, given all that went wrong last night, lets take out the one guy who did next to nothing wrong and see if that helps.
     
  3. alex_jr

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    Seeing as I didn't manage to catch this game, I won't say whether JVG should have used VSpan or not.

    But I will counter some people's arguments here.

    Everyone keeps mentioning his TOs. Yes, there were a lot of them but MOST of them were from passes his teammates weren't ready for (which I'm sure theyve worked more in practice) and some others for palming (which I'm sure he's already got the hang of).

    As some others mentioned, he's not a 20 yo rookie. He might be an NBA rookie but he has played at a very high level for a long time and against many NBA calibre players.

    His defense/hustele and energy he brings into the game are unquestionable. And if all you need is a spark to get back into your game he is the guy to provide it...one steal, one fast-break and you get the crowd back into it too.

    Remember the end of the game against Dallas? Ok, it was a large gap and the game was pretty much over when he came in but he played 4 mins to get 2 fouls against him resulting in 4 FTs (he missed 2 and scored 2...his first ever points in an official game) 1 steal, where he ran the fast break and got the layup and1 for 5 points total. He also had 1 assist and 1 TO which was Dikembe fumbling his actually very good pass (so that really should have been a 2nd ast)

    I'm not saying he is suddenly like this amazing player. But i do think that overall he is someone that will make a positive difference usually. And he ALWAYS wants to win ...ALWAYS

    And in some other threads i hear people saying how much the Rox need someone to drive to the basket... V-Span is great at penetrating...

    So yeah...havent seen the game but I'm pointing out what he could bring.
     
  4. Amel

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    bring in VSpannnnnn
     
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    The only way V-Span gets in will be JVG gets out.
     
  6. shawn786

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    V-Span could have been the spark off the bench but it never happined becuase he never got off of it...

    I'd like to see what he can bring to the table but i repect JVG's decition. Im sure he is seeing his progress during practices. When he is ready he will get some time on the floor I just hope its sooner than later!
     
  7. IRockU

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    :D

    JVG is so rididculou! Spanoulis raped all his opponents in international tournaments: Paul, Hinrich, Udrih,Parker,Calderon.

    But JVG prefers Rafer for 40 min... :D
     
  8. rocketsmetalspd

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    DD I can see you and I would like to see V-Span play but it does not look like JVG will let him play at the one or the two. I am probably the only one here that wishes JVG GOD speed out of H-Town. He should go back and coach the NYK.
     
  9. WNBA

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    Last game was a disaster which can be avoided if you'v ......done spmething.

    Group1:Things that can not be corrected:
    _ TMAC is soft and fond of his jumper.
    _ Yao is soft and dumb when he is tired.
    _ Battier disappeared in every clutch time.
    _ Howard sucks for ever.
    _ Rockets' shooting and defense when the game counts.
    _ Rafer's poise under pressure.

    Group2:Things that can be done:
    _ JVG's coaching (I believe JVG sucks, so JVG should in group1 too)
    _ we have VSpan!

    Rafer is singled out because he has a good backup in VSpan and this thread is about him..
     
  10. IRockU

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    The only way VSpan gets in under JVG will be Rafer,Luther,Snyder,McGrady,Wells,JL3, break a leg. :(
     
  11. Bogey

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    The one guy I really thought should have gone in the game as the Spurs were taking over while we couldn't hit a shot, was Novak. Put the shooter in. No one on the floor was hitting a shot.
     
  12. sammy

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    Im sure he would have done better against Beno. Head had 4 turnovers so VSpan really could have done better. There are good sides of JVG and then there are the bad sides. Im really frustrated with JVG.
     
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    Yao had a horrible game last night, and I hold him the most responsible for the loss, but he really didn't play soft at all. He was attacking the whole time, and getting murdered with no calls. NBA referees should be shot. David Stern is gay for Lebron, Wade, and Nash, and is more authoritarian than Kim Jun-il. Truth. Nuff said.
     
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    Novak! VSpan! Novak! VSpan!

    :cool:
     
  15. Ehsan

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    Poppovich took the kind of chance you take right after thinking "if i'm really lucky, and the other coach is ****ing slow, then this might work" and it worked for him.

    No one can tell when a team is going on the run. But you CAN do a few things like call a friggin timeout. Put in the energetic and erratic player. Jeez, your whole team is making errors, at least let the guy with energy play. Bring in the high % scorers - How likely is Novak to NOT make ONE 3-pter?

    T-Mac is getting to the point where I'm thinking T-Mac should bench him when he plays poorly. Him "playing through" his rust is costing us games. Join Bonzi on the treadmill and work hard in practice. Earn your friggin minutes. Think about your strengths and which shots you are most likely to make.

    He was playing the best perimeter defender on the best defensive team and had 21 by halftime. After that, Bowen was guarding him LESS, and he made 1 of 11. Goes to show, T-Mac has no idea what shot selection is. We just have to hope that he gets hot for loong loooong loooooooong stretches.
     
  16. zcity

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    All I can say is it would have been tough for that "fist pumping" Udrih to make another "3" at the end of the 3rd with Spanoulis' elbow in his grill.
     
  17. Htown57

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    lets take a step back here. the problem in this game wasn't rafer--rafer only had 2 turnovers and shot the ball well. JVG, during the run, made the call to put Head in--a perfectly reasonable move considering how Head helped spark the game clinching run against the Heat. And as good as the Head was that we got against Miami...what we got Vs. SA was some pretty mediocre Head. No one could hit a shot ..what were we, 2 for 22 during one stretch?
    What we needed is someone who is totally and iredimably crazy who wont freak out under the pressure of that spurs run, someone who could get to the basket and at the very least get fouled. Foul shots not only let you score, but slow the pace of the game and allow you to gather yourself. On this team, the best slasher is probably still t-mac...but t-mac had bruce bowen in his drawers, so that leaves us with snyder or v-span. what we should have done was LEFT RAFER IN to be a primary ballhandler (along with mac), and just let V-span play human cannonball (on both sides of the ball) for a while.

    Or just have him start some **** with bowen. I'd pick v-span in that fight.
     
  18. rv2843

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    One thing is obvious. Starters are playing too many minutes, and their sloppy defense and TOs are mainly due to fatigue. Logical conclusion: bright in your fresh and young legs. :D
     
  19. Yetti

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    Agreed! This is only commonsence and our coach should take care of this matter. If he insists on overplaying players or players that don't folow his instructions he should be given the boot. I consider that JVG should be given every chance to show what he can do as a coach.
     
  20. xomox

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    besides 3 pointers, head does not give very much at all. he has the occasional great pass to yao under the basket but he cannot create for himself or others.

    vspan seems like someone who will not fold. i think he should play ahead of head at the point. he seems like the only one that can keep the team afloat when a team is putting it on us. everyone else gets nervous and indecisive.
     

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