VSPAN could barely contain himself on the Bench !!

Look, we don't know what goes on in practice. It could be that VSPAN and NOVACK are still learning the nuances of the NBA game and they just aren't ready. I'm sure JVG will give them their chance. It's still the beginning of the season. JVG is going with what he knows, and this team isn't playing badly. It's not like we are in desperation - why is everyone hitting the panic button ten games in??


We are 6-4 - and our four loses are against: Utah, NOK, SA, and Detroit.

And we have wins against Dallas Miami, and Chicago. We beat all the subpar teams we have played (NY, Memphis, and Bucks).

Everyone knows the first 10 games of the NBA season are not the prettiest. So everyone just needs to chill....January is usually when teams start to gel or not....and you get a better sense on making adjustments. If those adjustments are working, you got the trade deadline in FEB.

It's just too early - way too early to panic.

 

well said by new yorker

 

It's not panic. It's about getting your new players up the learning curve as soon as possible. JVG should have played Chuck Hayes over Howard last year. He's doing the same with VSpan and Novak.

By the same logic, we would never have played Sam Cassell the year of the 1st Rockets championship. I guess playing a rookie cost us alot then. Right.

 

I'm not sure that the JVG flamers are in "panic". The fact is that this team should be 9-1 atleast. That is the thing that is killing this board. Is it early... yes. But those of us who are not JVG supporters hate having to sit through another season of mediocrity while management figures out the he is not the best fit for this team. In the mean time.... Tmac and Yao are another year older and our younger players who could be making valuable contributions rot on the bench. For the Rockets.... I hope that I am wrong... however I have a feeling we will all end up here in that same familiar position at the end of the season saying "I told you so".

-CV

 

Cassell was NBA ready. He was a first rounder - neither which are novak, VSPAN, or even hayes (not by a long shot). These are players that are kept because of their potential.

Granted, experience is a great teacher - but we are about winning now. Not experimenting. JVG tried everyone last year - that was a desperation season.

This is not a desperation season. They'll get their chance - at the right time and place.

 

What do you mean they should be 9-1? That's a lot to expect out of a team that was in the lottery last year. Way too much to expect.

Look back at the poll posted on the first 10 games...most people were thinking 6-4 or 7-3. Well, guess what, this team is about there in meeting expectations.

 

After what VSpan did to the United States team, is anyone doubting that he would be a first rounder this year if we hadn't taken him in 2004?

 

This is just an innane comment.

How can you tell if someone is ready to play unless they get to see the court?

Cassell was no more NBA ready than V-Span, in fact, just the opposite.

V-SPan is 25 years old, and has been playing PROFESSIONALLY for several years.

Novak is just as pro ready as Cassell was......

JVG is just STUBBORN, and AFRAID (in a contract year) to try new things.

Look at Utah, they have two 2nd year players in the rotation, and THREE rookies.

Yeah, it is really hurting them, now isn't it.



DD

 

And we saw what VSPAN did in the preseason coffing up the ball like a cat. And Novak is no where near where Cassell was. These guys don't have it...and it's an illusion to think that putting them in is going to magically change our season from being a solid playoff team to being a 62+ game winning team.

 

Some of the reason we were in the lottery is because of injuries. However, that doesn't mean that I don't expect more out of this team. As a JVG supporter can you honestly defend the fact that other teams are making adjustments to him at halftime and he has no answer it? Or the fact that when we sit Raefer we have no backup PG? You are right in saying that we beat the teams that we should have, which is why we are 6-4. But at what point in the season should we expect this team to defeat NOK, SA, Det? How long is the rope?

 

This assesment is based off of 10 mins of actual game time. Not preseason! Are you JVG?

 

Sam Cassell had just played two years for FSU in the heyday of the ACC when he came to the Rockets - he's about as NBA ready as it gets.

Some guy who played SG in Greece is more NBA ready? Doubtful.

 

V-Span did cough it up a bit, but not in every game, he is going to have some growing pains for sure, but you can't grow without playing.

Yao had EIGHT turnovers last night...EIGHT !!!!! Do you think he should sit out the next game?

V-Span will make mistakes but he will make a lot of GOOD plays too, especially on defense and setting people up on offense.

The reason we bog down in the 4th quarter is teams clamp down on our first and 2nd option and we don't have anyone else to create...or take advantage.

V-span to drive, Novak to shoot, would add a TON in clutch times.

DD

 

He just played PG in the world championships and finished 2nd.....IN THE WORLD, Sam !!!

He is ready, JVG is not.

DD

 

killbill is ready to play, novak maybe not. put him in

 

WOW IN THE WORLD? THX DADA WOOOOOWZERS!!11!!

You know why they finished second? Because he folded like a cheap futon in the Gold Medal game, could not hit the broad side of a barn, and Greece's offense was miserable.

 

How did the US team finish in those championships again? You know the one with Lebron, Wade, Melo, etc..etc..etc..?

HMMMM????

V-Span is ready....growing pains yes, but he will have good plays too, and gradually the bad ones will minimalize while the good ones will increase.

If JVG has the sack to actually play the guy....

DD

 

So you're saying that Spanoulis should start over LeBron, Wade, and Carmelo Anthony?

God, forget it, never mind, this is like arguing with a four year old who wants an ice cream cone. You're just going to whine and second guess no matter what no matter what, no matter how inconsistent or inane your argument might sound so there's no point in even discussing it.

 

Yeah, bail out, be a wuss, it is your M.O.

All I am saying is that V-Span is NBA ready, not that he is a starter, not that he is all world...but that he is more ready than most rookies coming into the league.

And, he needs an opportunity to play.

While Luther Head can shoot fairly well (better than V-span especially on jumpers) he is NOT a PG, and is not just bad on defense is simply LOUSY at it.

So, whenever you have Head and Alston on the court together they can not stay in front of any decent penetrating guard, and this is where the Rockets fall apart.

Teams shut down Yao and Tmac in the 4th, and we don't have another creator on the floor to make them pay....someone else that can drive and dish, or drive and finish.

I would like to see V-Span get a bit of a run, especially since he is our best perimeter defender, and more importantly, a fiery competitor, something this team lacks.

But, go ahead join the bailing out of arguments sect because you are being owned......typical !!

DD

 

Bailing out? Argument? DaDakota as many have recognized there's no arguments with you once you set your mind to something (which generally changes every five seconds and is generally the opposite of whatever is happening), you'll just decide on something and then sound the same broken-record posts about it forever and ever and ever and ever. I mean - that's why you're re-writing Sam Cassell's career to make it seem like he wasn't "NBA ready".

Sorry, no thanks.