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Vote on recent incident in killing of Tibetian pilgrams

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewYorker, Oct 17, 2006.

  1. real_egal

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    It is not too late for original local White people in Scarborough and Mississauga in Ontario, Canada. The Indian immigrations "replacing local white people genocide" started 25 years ago, a lot shorter than what happened in Tibet. Go to Canada, start the movement, tell those Indian immigrants that they don't have the right to vote those local governments, leave those white people alone, and go back to India. Unless, you support Indian decedants' genocide on local white people.
     
  2. michecon

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    Why is anyone still "debating" with NewYorker is beyond me.
     
  3. geeimsobored

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    Honestly, both sides are spewing nonsense at this point with horrible cliched phrases, questionable logic, and plenty of insults.

    I think both sides have legitimate points but both sides are so adamant at defending untenable positions that its been reduced to a bad shouting match, which is why I think this is somewhat akin to an abortion debate. Both sides won't convince the other, and there probably is a stable middle ground that no one acknowledges.
     
  4. canoner2002

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    No, they are not wiped out. I am sure there are still thousands of them living today. And a lot of them still live their "primative" way. If you feel so strong about cultural "genocide", why not start from yourself and leave the country as the first step of correcting the mistake?

    Who is to say 150 years is too late and 50 years is not?

    We all know you don't really care about tibetans, what you care about is making trouble for the chinese. That is typical american way. Kurds were used to make troubles for Saddam. Albanian were used to make troubles for Serbs. Chechinians were used to make troubles for Russians.
     
  5. vlaurelio

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    i know.. its hard to debate someone who lied, admits to lying, and then says that the admission is a lie and he was really telling the truth..

    but there is two facts I'm absolutely sure about him.. and that he will do anything which obviously includes lying just to "win" and internet debate..

    and in the event he loses, he will resort to more lying and try to embarass the poeple he lost to.. an prime example is is thread.. he was clearly losing another thread about the same topic that he had to resort to opening a leading poll to try embarass the chinese posters in this forum.. who knows how many times the same chinese posters have beaten him in a debate and he's just trying to get back at them..
     
  6. canoner2002

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    There is the third thing I am absolutely sure about him... when he's lost a debate, he'd just sing "I won.. I won-I won..... I won..I won." to himself.
     
  7. NewYorker

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    it's so sad you and vloser have to be such sore losers guys. I mean nearly everyone on here has condemned china except chinese posters. look at the poll. it's split between gencide and human rights violations. either way, it's not a pretty picture.

    and yet you guys have attacked americans when you yourselves decry any attack on chinese. and to stoop even lower, you're trying to attack indians and turning this debate into a racist squabble.

    it's so sad and pathetic the level you have dropped to...and i refuse to be pulled into a pig pen of dirty mud - you can roll around it all you want, but again, keep me out of it.

    this thread is over. the poll speaks for itself. don't try to personalize everything....that's what losers do. you can't debate the statements, so you attack a person's race and character - someone you don't even know and make ludicrious claims. how weak and pathetic.
     
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  8. NewYorker

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    this is just ridiculous - to try to excuse the killing and oppression of tibetians, as well as the intention destruction of their country by attacking all immigration all over the world is ridiculous.

    the debate is over - congrats, you've sunk to a new low. All you need to do is thorw out an insult and you can join all the other chinese posters on ignore.
     
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  9. NewYorker

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    hey, don't put me down to their level...i am trying to stay on the high road...unlike the chinese posters and those that have personal issues with me.
     
  10. canoner2002

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    Guys, you see what I mean? He is claiming himself the winner again. Just hilarious.
     
  11. canoner2002

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    Actually, I think most people think the opposite about you.
     
  12. canoner2002

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    Do me a favor and put me on your ignore list. I've put you on mine simply because reading your posts cracks me up from time to time.
     
  13. compucomp

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    Yep, and you get fed the propaganda of the blatantly anti-China American media. It's far more inaccurate than any Chinese account. The Chinese accounts may cover some things up, but the American media blatantly fabricates junk when it comes to reporting China, and that's far worse.

    Besides, I have said it once and I will said it again. People in China DO NOT GIVE A FLYING F*CK how the American public feels about Tibet. If anything they will do exactly counter to what the Americans want, because we know the Americans are out to get us. So this poll is totally biased, and set up to promote a message, but the poll and its message are both totally worthless.
     
  14. blazer_ben

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    Noone is ought to get you^^. in other threads i have stated that i have greatly admierd the chineese culture and people for ever. they are polite, well mannerd and extremly Intelligent nation. noone hates china, infact it is the opposite. why cant everyone just get along?. Stop calling Newyorker names just because you dont agree with him and vice versa...
     
  15. geeimsobored

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    ^^^

    Bingo.. all of you arguing in favor of China in this heated debate would be wise to cut down on the personal attacks, accusations of lying, and heated yet empty rhetoric regarding NewYorker and others who oppose your position.

    The same also applies going the other way. I disagree on most points with those who favor China in this debate but I have much less respect for your position when it is filled with personal accusations of "China-hating" and other biases and claims that somehow you are privy to special knowledge that we are somehow blinded to.

    I know most of you posting in favor of China on this debate routinely criticize the Republicans here for their empty rhetoric and continuous nonsense about comforting the enemy and the "liberal media." They consistently question our intelligence, our patriotism, our motives to no end. And yet, I find it hypocritical that in many cases, people here are engaging in very similar logic, creating red herrings regarding our supposed hate for China, and the evil American media that openly lies about Tibet. I'll be the first to say that coverage is one sided but to somehow brush aside everything I or anyone else said because of these red herrings seems to be pretty disingenuous and non-responsive.

    This debate has become utterly pointless and has de-evolved into an all out shouting match and regurgatated talking points that won't convince anyone and will serve to anger everyone.
     
  16. NewYorker

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    The American media isn't anti-China...America isn't anti-china, that's just your paranoid belief. We're one of your biggest trading partners in the world. So it completely makes no sense that you view us as an enemy. If anything, we just want China to evolve into a peaceful nation.

    The poll isn't biased - it covers many options and has an other category for those who don't agree with any of the points. Maybe instead of bashing, you can humbler yourself and see the merits of what other people think...
     
  17. NewYorker

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    Well, there a few who hate my guts because I ripped them apart in a debate to be sure - and then there's the chinese posters, who hate me because I am not afraid to call a spade a spade. But I don't personally attack the chinese posters, just what China does.

    You and they respond with personal attacks, because you can't debate on the merits of the thinking. That's too bad...and always a sign of weakness.
     
  18. NewYorker

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    In order for me to put you on ignore, you have to come up with a poisonous personal attack. If you're willing to stoop to that level, I'll glady add you to my ignore list like the others.
     
  19. NewYorker

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    What names have we called the Chinese posters?
     
  20. hotblooded

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    Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics

    even if you win






    you still loose
     

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