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Von Wafer to sign with Phoenix?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by djohn2oo8, Jul 15, 2009.

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  1. DribbleHooper

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    I'm guessing they called him "Radio" because he tuned everyone out.

    However, that's just my guess.
     
  2. solid

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    Wow, this turned into the beat up on DD thread; what happened to Wafer? ;)
     
  3. Dr of Dunk

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    Chase's vertical isn't even 40 inches. I wouldn't be surprised if White's vertical is the highest in the NBA - we're talking 44" plus at minimum. He's rumored to jump 47-50". Wafer's I have no idea.
     
  4. Dr of Dunk

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    DD showed up in the thread more than Wafer ever did on the court - it's to be expected.
     
  5. HowsMyDriving

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    no, because of the movie.

    Radio the movie
     
  6. HowsMyDriving

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    your sig is awesome. lol.
     
  7. Im Just Sayin

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    Wish we could keep him for the right amount of money. Tough loss
     
  8. Dr of Dunk

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    We've lost him?
     
  9. djohn2oo8

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    Don't know why everybody is so upset about, Budinger and Taylor will make up for him
     
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    Maybe I was wrong in thinking that Wafer doesn't make other players better. I remembered the Spurs game from last season and he definitely made someone better on the court.

    Too bad it wasn't a Rocket! It was Ime Udoka who scored off three offensive rebounds or so when Wafer didn't box him out. I've never seen that at the professional level where in nearly 3 consecutive trips your man gets an offensive board. And we're talking Udoka not Moses Malone here.

    Udoka Makes a Case for More Playing Time
     
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    having a high verticle means nothing for a guard if he cant either A. Be strong enough to consistantly establish position in the paint or B. Be quick enough off the dribble to consistantly get to the rim.

    I don't think Budinger can do either consistantly. Whats that vert going to do for him? is he going to jump over his defenders and shoot hook shots from beyond the three point line?

    Said it before and I'll say it again. If Budinger is going to bring anything to this team, it's his three point stroke and his passing.

    Despite all his measureables, I don't think he will be a better athlete than his opposing 2 guard. This is the NBA.
     
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  15. Dr of Dunk

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    Sorry, but if you think I'm defending the basketball playing ability of any of these players based upon their verticals, you have me mistaken. I never stated that. All I did was correct what I thought was an erroneous statement. Carry on with the Vonathon!
     
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    not sure if anyone is listening to the nba.com feed of the game

    shawn respert is on doing some guest commentary they asked him what separates coach adelman from other coaches

    he said that coach adelman is a master at managing players personalities and that he never lets a player's little quirks and outburst ever effect his coaching plan and he gets the most out of his players that way. he always keeps in mind the bigger picture. he said thats the biggest thing especially in this league with so many super star players



    that was a paraphrase btw

    so if coach adelman who has been always lauded as a player coach has openly said that wafer and him have had issues in the past and then also threw wafer out of a playoff game it has to tell you something about what the coach really feels about Wafer.

    i dont see wafer wearing a Rockets jersey in the fall even if he is willing to stay for the vet min.....just my 2 cents

    of course I very well could be wrong but i dont think DM would bring back a player that he knows has a rocky history with the coach
     
  17. SamCassell

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    Look back at Rockets who were 23, and what they developed into.

    Chuck Hayes was 23 in 06/07. He was a good defender / rebounder with no offense then... he is still that same guy. Luther Head was 23 that same year and had proven he could shoot the ball and not much else... same guy now. Regressed, if anything. JL3 was 23 that same year, he sucked then as much as now. Yao was 23 in 03/04, his 2nd season. He was an 18/9 guy that year (and played 82 games, those were the days). This last season he was a 20/10 guy, but not a radically different player than he was his 2nd / 3rd seasons in the NBA. More consistent, less foul prone, a better leader, all true. But his essential nature as a player didn't change. Steve was a 22/7/6 guy at age 23 (and 2nd in the league in turnovers). His game never really was better than it was that year, his sophomore season.

    So no, I'm not saying that Von's "peaked" at 23. He has room for improvement, he can and probably will work on his game. But I don't see a lot of players entirely reinvent their games for the better after that age. He's a shoot first, second, and last type guy, a non-defender, a high flier, and a guy who in short bring good scoring off the bench, and not much else. He might improve his 3 point stroke, he might work on his midrange game, he might do a lot of things... but I doubt he suddenly develops great court awareness, on either offense or defense, or that he suddenly becomes an all-around player. He is who he is, at the core.
     
  18. solid

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    If CB has a 47 in. vertical, just reserve his HOF spot right now, because the boy can shoot. Novak had a 4.7 inch vertical.
     
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    thats spot on
     
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    Morey has always spoken about Von with a "yeh, but" kind of response. I recall so many interviews where the host was raving about Wafer and then Morey would respond by saying something to the effect of "still has alot to learn. challenged defensivly. was a long shot to make the team. needed injuries and it happened. huge suprise."

    You never really got the sense that he thought he had upside. He always talked about his flaws and he says he never would have predicted this level of success for Von. That tells me he's not sold on him long term.
     
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