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Von Wafer to sign with Phoenix?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by djohn2oo8, Jul 15, 2009.

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  1. jVgOwnsYou

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    The rockets wont be the first organization to let him go. His talent is undeniable. I really think he's just uncoachable and no player is so talented that they can get away with that.
     
  2. spysta

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    I raise you 1.1 ppg

    Von will avg 17.1 ppg next season as phoenix will trade away jason richardsons contract and wafer will start as shooting guard.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Art Eckman did the Radio and TV broadcasts back then.....I wish I could take credit for remembering but Nelson Luis actually emailed me back to let me know.

    Big ups to him for doing that.

    DD
     
  4. jVgOwnsYou

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    Spot on. Excellent post.
     
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    as always fool!

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  7. the1option

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    YA..how he got in an arguement with adelman last year shows his immaturity
     
  8. thelasik

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    Seriously. Getting into arguments with a true players coach is a bad sign.
     
  9. jVgOwnsYou

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    During a playoff game. Very selfish move. Never show up your coach especially a guy like Adelman who has been around forever and knows the game backwards and forwards. Im guessing he was upset about losing time to Battier. Battier makes every group he's with better because he's UNSELFISH, team first. Von, you could learn a thing or two from a guy like Shane.
     
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    Great post. That was really all that need to be said in this thread, all the hand-wringing over Von leaving the team is way overboard. I'd give you a rep if I could.
     
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    Think they are referencing this character:

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    I just don't get posters here for the most part. It seems like way too many people on here just piggyback on whatever moves it looks like Morey's making. As a starter, Wafer averaged 16.4 PPG on 49.7% shooting. Why people are so eager to get rid of that is baffling.

    To address some of the complaints about his game, his passing ability and questionable D. He averaged 1.1 APG, 0.9 TPG, which is far from horrible for a young 2 guard. His role was to score which is why he didn't do a lot of passing, but he showed the ability to make good passes plenty of times this season. His defense is definitely not great, but his decision making can improve with more playing time.

    None of those guys are as atheltic or skilled. Quality over quantity, having a bunch of scrubs at the same position isn't a good reason to pass on a good player. And for all the complaints about Wafer's D & passing ability, Jesus, er...Morey admitted those guys needed to step up their D. And Budinger is the only one of that group with any court vision.

    Arguing with the coach in-game is definitely not a good thing, no doubt about it. But he was right to be pissed, Adelman was over-playing Lowry at the 2 guard when he was playing like trash. Lowry was 0-7 in G2 with 3 assists & 3 TO's in 22 minutes. Wafer was 3-4 in 9 minutes. I'm not pointing this out to make an excuse for what Von did, but to show that Adelman made a mistake with his rotation.

    If this was a championship caliber team, I could understand hesitations about Von's attitude, but this team isn't in a position to show young talents the door because they made a few mistakes.
     
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    Great post......totally agree...

    DD
     
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    Weird how Budinger and Taylor are already scrubs and how White isn't as athletic as Wafer. So weird.
     
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    Taylor and Budinger are not scrubs, but they are totally uknown which makes them risky.

    White can jump high but his lateral quickness is not even close to Von's...IMO.

    DD
     
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    I'm sure White's lateral quickness is just as good as Von's. You've been raving about how fast Von is while dribbling, which I'd agree he's faster with the ball than White, but that's not athleticism. That's a skill. I can probably run as fast as most of them on the court in a straight foot race, but with a ball it's a different story.
     
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    Yeah, that makes sense.

    DD
     
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    Budinger & Taylor could become good players, but Wafer already is proven and still has a much higher ceiling than them. White is a fantastic dunker and leaper but is pretty slow compared to other NBA wings.
     
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    Chase has mad hops... wouldn't be surprised if his vertical is higher than White's or Wafer's...
     
  20. Ashes

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    How does Wafer have a higher ceiling than Taylor/Budinger?

    I loved Wafer for our team, but what did he do that showed he'd be able to do anything but score? He's not a two-way player and doesn't create for teammates. He's efficient in terms of scoring and minimizing turnovers, but everyone could see he made poor decisions on numerous occasions. Sure he's young, but what exactly has he done that definitively proves he has a higher ceiling than Taylor or Budinger. He's proven? Ok, sure. How can one assume that he hasn't proven he's already peaked?

    Both Budinger and Taylor are young, athletic, and have shown that they can score. They've also shown a bit better "basketball IQ." How can you argue that they do not have a high ceiling when they have yet to play a NBA game? That's the whole point of the term ceiling. Four years ago, Wafer was nothing. What was his ceiling then? Did they rennovate his house? How can you be so quick to dismiss two young, promising players?
     
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