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Von Wafer to sign with Phoenix?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by djohn2oo8, Jul 15, 2009.

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  1. RocketsPimp

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    So now we are speculating about what Ron might have done, but didn't actually do in order to defend what Von actually did?

    :confused:

    Just to play along....maybe he could have lost it and gone into the stands to get some jackass that threw a cup of water or beer at him, but sorry, Ron would not have allowed his competitive spirit to get into an argument with his head coach in the middle of a playoff game. That's not the way he ticks.
     
  2. Depressio

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    Wait, wait, wait.

    You asked him the question because you wanted his "viewpoint"... but you think he only says what the Rockets tell him to, thus having no "viewpoint" himself... so why did ask for something he doesn't have? You're not making much sense.
     
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  3. DaDakota

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    He is young, young players make mistakes.

    He was on an NBA league minimum 1 year contract, and was a bubble player who wanted to prove himself.

    You need to factor all of that in when evaluating his play.

    His BBall IQ is questionable, but I wouldn't say bad.....because he made some really nice passes when driving which said it was ok....need to see him under a more controlled manner, or rather where his situation is settled and he is not worried about his next contract.

    DD
     
  4. DaDakota

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    I asked him for his viewpoint KNOWING that he will basically say what the organization is saying.

    DD
     
  5. Shroopy2

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    The Book On Von Wafer is will just never have a unanimous interpretation.
    But it makes for good sports board discussion.

    I've looked at the Gerald Green, Rodney Carney, Flip Murray, Rashad McCants, Dante Jones, Fred Jones, Sasha Pavlovic types of the league. Unless my eyes deceived me, it seemed Wafer showed a little better ability to put the ball through the hoop than most those guys. It'll be interesting to check in on Wafer's play when he starts a season already in a team's rotation mix instead of in tryout mode. He could keep doing what he just did, or he could regress backward to scrub level like Sasha Vujacic, except making far less money.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    No?

    He just goes up into Kobe's face and gets himself THROWN out of the first two playoff games by the refs.

    DD
     
  7. RocketsPimp

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    Boki Nachbar anyone? Please spare the he was successful with the Nets argument. He's been marginally more successful than Wafer who still has yet to prove he belongs in the NBA. He's also headed back overseas. The best part of Boki's career will always be:

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    In his defense, one of them was over anyways, they were losing by a lot with less than a min left.
     
  9. Depressio

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    Okay, still makes no sense because you could easily find out what the organization thought of JT without asking Feigen anyting, but you go girl!

    On a side note, why do you think what you've seen of JT (which is probably just over small resolution internet media of the summer league games) is more accurate than what an NBA organization full of experts at evaluating talent see?
     
  10. DaDakota

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    I said he would be at best a 5th -8th option....and well, guess what, he was......

    I liked the way he played, can't you LIKE the 7th man on a team?

    DD
     
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    that extrapolating saying if he was given 30 minutes he would get 2 assists

    IS

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    CASE

    the games he started he averages more than 33 minutes and average less than 2 assists per game. 1.63 just saying its "about 2" is passing it off.


    you are talking about what he WOULD do given more minutes...I showed you what he DID when he was given more minutes as a starter.

    DD you are always about facts so why switch all of a sudden to hypotheticals and away from facts.
     
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    He gets a pass for the Joey Crawford toss. Everyone does. ;)
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Admittedly I am not sure about Taylor but my sample size is very very small....we shall see on him.

    DD
     
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    I dont get why people make such a big deal about "spending the boss' money." That makes a difference to one person- Les Alexander. Spending 2 million, say, to buy a draft pick is completely different from a contract for 2 mil a year. Only one counts against the cap.

    As far as Von goes, I wont lose any sleep over it. I was never really crazy about him. He fit in our system because he brought energy and attacked the basket when we were desperate for slashers. He doesnt have a great bball IQ either. Sometimes he would just force the action and he was a below average passer. Thats why he did well in spurts, but could never be counted on for lengths of time.

    I thought that the way he was neutralized in the playoffs would make people cool down about him, but seems like that didn't happen. He was shut down by Sasha and he lost his temper in the MIDDLE of a game.
     
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    Wait, so it is ok for Ron to be competitive but not Von? Come on now........

    Sasha shut him down in one game, Von actually played better than Sasha over the entire series.....and his PPminute was better than his regular season averages, he just played fewer minutes.

    DD
     
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    Wafer is younger than every other player who played for the Rockets last season except Lowry. We need scoring, we need an SG, and we'd like him to be young and athletic, so why are we letting Wafer go? We're going to have to bring somebody else in anyway.
     
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    You're right about that. Wafer showed that he could score on the fastbreak even if it was 1 man fastbreak. He also displayed that he can consistently make open shots. However, he doesn't have good court vision and his defense is average at best.

    Taylor will be the better overall player. We all know Chase can shoot and Morey added another shooter last night.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Most 2nd round picks are out of the league in under 2 years.....the odds are that Taylor won't make it.

    I would prefer to have a guy that has had success in the league.....I think that is the primary difference in my thought process than many others.

    DD
     
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    ....unless it is a rookie you are in love with in which case you'd rather have him than Kobe Bryant - don't even try to deny this. There are probably THOUSANDS of old posts of yours advocating to start/play/keep rookies over veterans, pretty much on the sole basis that they are rookies and thus might be better.
     
  20. sammy

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    He could have gone anywhere from 15 to 30. I'm glad that he slipped to 32.

    Aaron Brooks went at 26. Josh Howard and Tony Parker went in the same general spot as Taylor.
     
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