I think the whole getting sent to the showers early is getting blown way out of proportion. I mean there isn't a bigger head case than Artest and almost everyone on this board was in love with him because he gave a good interview. It really comes down to how talented the Rockets think Von is and what his peak it.
Care to impart your opinion on Von Wafer as of 7/15/08? If anything, your answer should give credence to Morey's ability rather than skepticism over Taylor.
Odd. One would say the same thing about Wafer when he came into the league and he didn't come close to leading the nation in scoring in college. Not getting hopes up or anything, but to say Taylor's promise coming into the league isn't at least high on the terms of scoring is ridiculous.
Von Wafer brought such excitement to the Rocket's Game. Many a time it was his scoring which turned the game around in our favour. He was a spark which will be missed .The Rockets have lost a player of potential. it just won't be the same!!
why is everyone so upset about this? we got him for free, and we lost him for nothing. he helped us when we needed it last year, but next year we have others to play his role, so we didnt need to keep him around. seems pretty straightforward to me. wish him luck and move on.
I don't get why everyone's crying over Wafer. You guys are crying over a journeyman that was the 39th overall pick of 2005? He's been in the league for like 4 years now.. yeah he did decently well when he got time last year after McGrady went down, but before that he was a no-namer. You say oh he didn't have the chance to showcase his abilities.. well it's called team practices. There's reasons why coaches don't play certain players.. maybe they just suck or aren't as good as the other players? Besides scoring and energy, I didn't see much else from Wafer this past season. His shooting percentages are typical for a SG 44% and 39% from 3PT land. He averages 1.8 rebounds and 1 assist and 1 steal. I'm pretty sure I can find another SG that has those averages. It's not like he has intangibles or does things not shown on the box score (i.e. Battier or Hayes). Plus, his head isn't in the right place all the time. Wafer is replaceable. Let Pheonix have him.
When did Artest lose his cool, get into an argument with the coach during a playoff game and hurt this team by being sent to the lockers because he did not accept being taken out of a game because he was playing ****ty? Quit bringin up old **** that has nothing to do with his time with the Rockets.
considering that Von is a career d-leaguer that had one decent season on a team where his defensive deficiencies and bbiq deficiencies were masked by his teammates, i think the answer to that question is likely yes. the reason Von had a good year is because his role was simplified to essentially one thing: score as efficiently as you can. one dimensional players are rarely worth keeping around at much more than minimal cost. if he wanted more than that, then so be it.
I wasn't bringing up old issues, and I am not so sure why you would get that worked up over my comment. I was simply saying that if Von isn't resigned I don't think it is from that incident. And to be fair Ron was on his absolute best behavior for a coach he respects in hopes of a big payday. Also, Ron did hurt his team by getting ejected from the Lakers game when it was still within reach.
LeBron was 19 and a rookie. Von Wafer is 24. Huge difference... How many times have you seen a guy just turn it on the next season after 4 seasons in the league already?
I like von< and i really do hope the rockets sign him again< yea his attitude showed up in that game against the lakers in the playoffs but u gotas respect a man who wants to win...that y he didnt want to si the bench, people always try to switch things up...von is a good player is not scared to shot and wants to win
This whole DD/Von thing is getting pretty lame. DD always likes one sided offensive players that dont play a lick of defense and team ball. Its just the way he is. Defense has been the Rockets calling card. Thats what we bring. Thats what we are known for. Lets stick to that. Offense wins games, defense wins championships. I dont even know if I trust this tweet. If it happens its not the end of the world. We got bigger holes to fill.
4 Million roughly was for Taylor and Budinger not 6 million, another 2 million was used for Llull. One of the biggest thing you keep missing DD about Von Wafer is Adelman and his offense. No one is given a green light just to score. The baskets come off of ball movement. If you look at the stats of Adelman's Kings from his 3rd year forward till his last year as kings coach (since his is about to enter his third season as coach plus probably the first season where we may fully see his ball movement offense) the main 6-7 guys on the kings all average 2 assists or more over the course of the season. And everyone of those players on those kings teams had more offensive skill than Wafer does (maybe not as athletic but more offensively skilled) If they can go around sharing the ball with one another than Wafer should too. I find that is probably the primary reason why the Rockets do not want him back. He does not move the ball around at all, he average 1.1 assists per game this past season and that is not a high number at all considering the large chunk of minutes when we all all the injures. Barry averaged slightly higher assists per game despite his limited minutes. Von isnt the talented player that McGrady or even Artest is to be a ball stopper like them. He took the shots he was supposed to take (and like you have mention to no end he was efficient in making those shots) but Wafer also took the shots he wasnt supposed to take especially when his teammates had much better options. Von always tries to always make a play, but he doesnt always tries to make the right play especially when the right play doesn't directly involve him. As adelman moves to a system where there isnt going to be one player averaging 7-9 assists but multiple guys getting 2-5 assists per game Von will not fit in there. His skills are excellent in a up tempo offense that relies on getting quick baskets in transition, but once you start having to slow it down into a half court set his inability to make the pass (if you want to call it his desire to not make the pass) hurts the team badly. IF he does sign with the suns and their fast breaking style I wouldnt be surprised at all if he averaged 12-15 points over the course of the season with a good shooting percentage, but that doesnt necessarily mean that he would have done the same here. Different system all together. Had Von shown the knack for being able to run the offense he would have gotten playing time long before the injuries to Tracy and Ron. Barry even played some meaningful minutes early on in the season and Von could have stepped up and taken those too if he fit in with the offense. Both Barry and Von had not been with Adelman or the Rockets prior to this past season. Injuries push Von up the depth chart and to his credit he made the most of it, but from what Adelman said and his dismissal of Von during a game makes me believe that he was forced to play Von out of necessity of injuries not because he wanted to. Von is a square peg and the Rockets are a round hole he just doesnt fit into with the offense the coaches are trying to do.
Yeah, but who does he think he is? Kobe? Stuff like that is detrimental to the team.. the coach usually knows what's the best lineup to put on the court. Know your role. Look what happened to Carmelo when he didn't want to come out or come in of a game.
Von was a great one on one player who had awesome athleticism and could shoot very well. Von was a horrible passer and not a team player and suspect on defense. However, we needed a go to scorer, we now do not have one on our roster. A little off topic, Von Wafer is a GREAT fit in phoenix with their fast paced offense. Good luck to you Von Wafer, we enjoyed your short stint here.
lol.. Wafer as our go-to scorer.. the dude can't create his own shot. No fadeaways, no off-balance shots, choppy handles and crossovers... he's just a spot up shooter and driver. Look at the videos.. I don't see any moves from Wafer. How can he be our go-to scorer?
Wafer is potentially gone. Alright... That evokes absolutely no emotion out of me. Its like watching Skip go, oh well. If its done, so be it. I'm amazed that this topic has conjured so much attention.
