He played great defense when he was switched on Kobe, not sure what you are talking about there. Shall I post the videos for you so you can go back and break down every possesion. Ron was solid and even played better on Kobe than Battier quite a few times. When Kobe was rolling, they switched to Ron who bumped him off his shot quite a few times, especially in the earlier games when Shane was struggling and kobe was in a groove. Brandon Roy used a screen and killed YAO. It is Yaos deficiency on the pick and roll! Brandon Roy used an on ball screen EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! It is TEAM DEFENSE in that situation. You could put Jesus on Brandon Roy and he would not have stopped him. A blithering idiot? He created FREAKIN half of our offense. He is a KEY REASON WHY WE WON 3 GAMES UNDERMANNED AGAINST THE BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE....His ball control and passing was absolutely vital, not to mention he got everyone in their spots and was a floor general throughout the playoffs. As an eventual underpayed third option, he was absolutely fantastic. PPS. Tracys first year with Rockets. 43% from 2, 33% from 3. Ronald- 40% from 2, 40% from 3. +ALL DEFENSIVE TEAM DEFENSE.... Strange that you say this about Ron and leave it out when you GUSH over Von. Von cursed out the damn coach he thought he was so good...
Ron = overpriced lemon Von = the next aaron brooks for this team Ron has no upside and is redundant, and shots us in the foot. Von is a game changer and is explosive, can score, and very fast. In 2-3 years, his defense will be better than Ron's.
His defense on SG's will be better because he will still be quick but Ron is a great defender of the SF/PF position...he is just not quick enough to guard good 2s anymore. DD
Depends on the money. If Von can be had for $2 million a year and Ron commands $10+ million a year (which I think is possible) then I think we keep Von. If Ron can be had for $7 million and Von commands $3-4 million then I'll keep Ronald.
Uh, no, he did not. Agreed that Roy is good, but they were not all screens Roy got around Ron pretty easily with the pick and without. Right, you mean that glorious offense that managed 70 points in game 7? A FLOOR GENERAL...RON????? Ok come on, I though I was being silly calling him Bonzi but you take the cake....Ron was terrible with the ball, he had some assists but TONS of turnovers as well. I never said Tmac was efficient. Great so was Battier, we need only one of them....and Ron is more expensive...trade him. Von certainly has that issue as well, he is just cheaper and he did not curse out the coach, he just complained about coming out of the game..... Please stick to some facts when you post. DD
Also, the term of the contact, if we could sign von for like a 3 or more year deal i would choose von because the fact that von is still young and has the abilities to improve but ron is in his 30s, unless he sign a short term contact. Both great player and help us get to the second, who ever leave rocket fans will miss them .
I know Wafer is generally liked by the board, but let me know when Von Wafer comes into a game and actually passes the rock? In game 3 vs LA he came in and every time he touched the ball, a shot went up. It went on for almost ten possessions, too. That wasn't the first time he played that way this season, either. I want both back, but people need to slow their roll on Wafer quite a bit.
He seemed to pass more when he knew he was going to play a bit, he is learning, clearly not a finished product. But if the guy can finish around 45%, that is pretty darned efficient. DD
Ron played solid D on Kobe when he was on him. Your bias is showing if you think otherwise. Honestly, go watch the tape. To say Ron was anything less than solid on defense in this years playoffs is a crime... "Right, you mean that glorious offense that managed 70 points in game 7?" Yes, that offense. Key words "game 7". Added words "Second round". "Ron was terrible with the ball, he had some assists but TONS of turnovers as well." He averaged 2.5 T/Os a game? I think YOU need to stick to the facts. The majority of the time, he made the right passes, which was SO critical when Aaron Brooks disappeared in game 2 and 3. AB plays mediocre in those games and we win the series... "I never said Tmac was efficient." You do not think Tracy was efficient in 2004? Really? Do you know what "efficient" means? "Great so was Battier, we need only one of them....and Ron is more expensive...trade him." What? This makes ZERO sense. Nothing wrong with having 2 stud defenders. Idiotic comment from you. Really. Different players that compliment Yao well... "Von certainly has that issue as well, he is just cheaper and he did not curse out the coach, he just complained about coming out of the game....." Really. You think Adelman told him to get away from the bench and his team, for merely complaining. You need to check yourself... "Please stick to some facts when you post." How about this one? No Ron=A decade of failure. With Ron=Lakers exposed.
Yeah, it was alllllll Ron that beat Portland......ROFLMAO..... Ron is a role player, that should be used as an asset to make the team better....he is NOT a difference maker. And the 2nd round is nice, I want a championship... A guy who shoots .394 in the playoffs is not that important. Knote, you like him that is cool, I respect that....let's see what DM decides to do. DD
I know full well Wafer can fill it up and shoot the ball well. And I'm already on record saying I want him back because they need his athleticism from a wing spot on the bench. But he's not learning fast enough if he gets sent to the locker room in game 2 vs the Lakers because he's unhappy with playing time. Or then proceeds to jack up a shot every time he touches the ball for a stretch in game 3.
I think I agree with this. I do not think Ron has a problem with it either, in fact I think he embraces it. Fact is, he had to be the first option, and we all know he is NOT a first OR second option player, but he did a solid job anyway. But I believe he can be an ELITE third option.
But he doesn't believe that, nor does he play like that...even with Tmac early in the year he was REALLY bad. Ron is a guy who NEEDS the ball in his hands a lot, to be effective, he is not good at creating for others, nor is he good at finishing at the rim. The guy is just a decent jump shooter...... On offense he is below average, on D, above average to great. We already have all of that covered with Battier, who is also a better...MUCH BETTER...team defender. What we need is a player that is OK on D, but GREAT on O.... We need more than 70 points in a game....this team needs scoring....check that...EFFICIENT scoring. DD
DM resigns him in a heartbeat and he's going to give him good money but I don't see him breaking the bank. Its a No brainer. He brings a toughness to the team no matter what his shooting % is. With another full season in houston I see him meshing with the team much better and playing alot more under control.
I don't think it is that simple...DM knows that Ron's value around the league is not very high, but Ron's value in his HEAD is very high. So, I think DM tells Ron to go out and set the market price, so that he can see the lay of the land and DM can try to sign him on the cheap. I just don't see DM investing all that much in a player that can't get it elsewhere that is bad business..... DD
I hate to make excuses, but I do not believe we saw Tracy and Ron really play. Ron had ankle problems, and Tracy was, well you know, Even Shane for that matter. Ron had some great games off the bench, so I think it can work. Ron did not dominate the ball in Indiana, and he has proven that he can be very good in a smaller role. He had some very solid years as a third option. Like Shane said "Sometimes when the offense does not work we just throw the ball to Ron and say, Bail us out!" Ron should not have been in that situation, but he was. He is one of the best 3-point shooters in the league and a solid defender. His effort and heart is contagious. At >8mil, you will not get close to finding equal value...
