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Vlade Divac...War

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by PhiSlammaJamma, May 19, 2004.

  1. thomp1141

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    Then you above all should understand Vlade's comment toward KG. Just like a U.S. soldier on the front lines understands the difference between being their and being at home on the lazyboy. Both are Americans, but one is experiencing a completely different aspect of the war. You above all should understand that what you experienced is entirely different than KG's experience.
     
  2. GoatBoy

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    Okay, I won't reply again after this. But I lived in New York City for 4 years. My kids played with kids who were killed on 9/11. I knew people who were in the towers when they fell. I still don't think anything we have experienced as civilians in the US is the same as what people went through in the former Yugoslavia.

    As I said, we can just disagree on this.
     
  3. canoner2002

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    Get out of here. You call that war? Have you seen a bomb dropped on your head? I haven't. The closest I have come to it is witnessing the WTC went down and getting covered by the debris. I don't think even that gave me any feeling of war.
     
  4. Mr. Slim Citrus

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    In 1999, Vlade Divac and Peja Stojakovic dealt with the stress of playing in the NBA while their families were getting bombed in Serbia; compared to Vlade Divac, Garnett knows jack **** about war....
     
  5. PhiSlammaJamma

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    I didn't say that was equivalent to the Balkans or any other place. the guy asked me when was the last time a bomb went off on my street. I told him. I was on the front line that day.
     
  6. canoner2002

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    Don't back out from your bold statements. You said americans know wars as well as everyone else. Civilians in this country, include me, knows little about wars. Soldiers are a bit different, although most of them don't know much either because they hide behind bombers and cruise missles.
     
  7. tierre_brown

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    It's amazing how tightass this PC culture has become. One flippant remark (although KG did rant about it for a long time, naming every single weapon known to man...) and all of a sudden it's a political commentary on the US's stance on war?

    Sure, KG is still immature and just a big kid in some ways. He can compare basketball to whatever he wants; hell, people have been comparing it to war for a longass time. But all of a sudden because we're in a war, we're not allowed to use sayings/analogies/metpahors we've grown accustomed to?

    Anyway, back on topic...to blast Vlade's comment is simply insane. No offense, PSJ, but I honestly think you missed the point of Vlade's comment (like others have said). He knows war firsthand. It's not a joking matter to him. It's like when someone says, "damn, ______ got raped." Most of us would laugh or agree or dismiss that remark, but there might be someone who got raped or has experienced it firsthand that would find that flippant remark offensive. We can all empathize with the rape victim, but that doesn't mean we feel the same pain that the victim, who's experienced it firsthand feels.

    Vlade said no comment, KG knows nothing about war. When he said it, he wasn't being offensive, or even defensive. He was just stating the fact that this is a game, not a life or death matter. The American media just likes shock vallue. They need drama for the "pivotal" game 7, that's all.
     
  8. PhiSlammaJamma

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    You are narrowing the definition of war to the front line. My definition of war is not as rigid. Think alanon. Drinking effects everyone around the person who drinks. Not just the drinker. That is what I know of war. If affects everyone from the soldiers right on down. That is what Americans know of War. But it's no less significant than what Vlade knows.
     
  9. GoatBoy

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    Very well put, TB.

    Nice sig, by the way.
     
  10. Bailey

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    I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest that war takes place in a warzone.

    Drinking affects everyone around the drinker? Maybe, but only the drinker gets a hangover. And do those around him/her truely understand what addiction is like?
     
  11. PhiSlammaJamma

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    The commish was right , we need back to back games. This is too much time to think :)
     
  12. Bailey

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    :) Very true.
     
  13. tierre_brown

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    It's all about building the drama...back to back doesn't give you time to stew and vent and rage on the BBS;)
     
  14. ivanyy2000

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    Don't buy the hype!!!:p:D
     
  15. dc rock

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    I'd like to make three points myself.

    1. The media uproar over Kevin Garnett's comments were ridiculous. It seemed as if they are just waiting for their oppurtunity to show how "patriotic" they are.

    2. Can shaq talk about dropping bombs because his step-dad was in the military? I dont understand why he gets off.

    3. The difference between Vlade Divac' war experience and most Americans, maybe KG included, is their country was/is a battleground everyday. What we experienced on Sept. 11, and for most vicariously, they have experienced first hand daily. When America fights in wars we usually only see it on CNN, these people had a front row seat to it on their porch.
     
  16. MacBeth

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    Really? First hand? I don't think so.
     
  17. J DIDDY

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    actaully KG said "i 'm ready, sitting at the house loading up the pump. got a couple M-16s, loading up clips, got a couple 9s, couple jawn wit silencers on em, couple missle launchers wit missiles. :D


    anyway KG should just shut his mouth cause he dont know **** about war. Divac had a right to be offended. KG lived a comfortable childhood compared to what Vlade probaly had to go through.
     
  18. dragon167

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    LOL. A kid skip his lunch and he claims he knows about poverty. A nba fan who follows the games on tv and newspapers and he claims he knows nba as much as any nba player. funny....
     
  19. qrui

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    :D :D :D nice one dragon.
     
  20. across110thstreet

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    so he referred to his stockpile of missile launchers, grenades and M-16s, just like I said.

    ACTUALLY, he said "couple of joints", J DIDDY, I don't know what a "jawn" is

    thank you for correcting me though.
     

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