Virginia sets different education goals based on race?

soft bigotry of low expectations

 

racists, or just being honest?

that is the question

 

being honest about what?

that is the question.

 

Well hello there, racist.

 

sounds very insulting to blacks, latinos, and education professionals

 

Just another state to do the same. I posted an article that said Florida has already done this.

Anything to make everyone equal.

 

Its Very insulting.

It sounds like a good way to hold back people rather than lift them up. Besides, education issues are not race based, but socio-economically based.

 

As with the Florida case, the goal is not to make students equal. It's to better evaluate school performance.

If you have a school of wealthy white students and another of poor black students, you *should* evaluate them differently. If you know poor black kids statewide pass at 40% and wealthy white kids pass at 80%, then if both are producing a 60% pass rate, the school in the poor black neighborhood is doing a better job because they are getting equal results despite significant disadvantages. Under the old system, the black school may be graded as failing simply because of the profile of their students.

There may be better ways than race to do it (income, etc), but this is NOT a way to evaluate student performance - it's a way to evaluate *school* performance.

 

Obama is a whole lot smarter than you.

that is not a question.

 

How is it affirmative action? A failing black student still fails. The students get no benefit or drawback from this.

 

You apparently don't understand how affirmative action works, because that isn't the definition of affirmative action, nor is it how affirmative action is applied.

 

So is the score on the test they have to achieve the same? If so then it's understandable. If the score they have to achieve then that's different.

 

Yes - this has nothing to do with what a student has to achieve to pass. It has to do with what percentage of students have to pass for the school to be considered acceptable. A school that has a lot of disabled students should be expected to do worse than a school with all upper-class students, but they were measured under the same standards before. This law (and Florida's) are designed to create different expectations based on the student base and judge schools that way.

 

Or, I should say, that was exactly the case with Florida. From what I understand, Virginia is doing the same but I haven't read nearly as much about it.

 

Do not pay Bigtexx any mind. We already know he is a bigot. If you are not white, Anglo-American, redneck, wears a hood at night, riding around with a gun looking to shoot "coons", then you are not his type of person.

 

it's so easy for you to just toss the race card rather than engage in discussion on the topic.

think more critically

 

Yes, and I think the whole thing has been terribly mis-reported and misunderstood. But, I won't go and argue it all over again after trying to explain it in the Floria thread. I've had this argument outside the BBS too, and it's really frustrating how many people obviously don't understand the intent nor the mechanism.

 

That sounds fair for teacher evaluation purpose, but I wonder if it will setup low expectation among African American and Latino students (sort of like self fulfilling prophecies).