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Violence in Sweden...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by OddsOn, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. OddsOn

    OddsOn Contributing Member

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    How can this be, Islam is a peaceful religion and accepts everyone else as equal right? Unless you are Jewish, Christian or anything else but Islam...

    Its funny that you don't see news stories like this in the US media...sadly though not suprising.

    <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/HaPz7p-1-bk&autoplay=&fs=1&showinfo=0&showsearch=0&rel=0&autoplay=&fs=1&showsearch=0&autoplay=&fs=1&showsearch=0&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="opaque" width="480" height="415" id="myytplayer"></embed> <div style="font-size:0.9em;">
    <a href="http://vodpod.com/watch/1428923-sweden-in-grip-of-islam">Sweden in Grip of Islam</a>
    - Watch more <a href="http://vodpod.com/politics">Politics Videos</a> at <a href="http://vodpod.com">Vodpod</a>.</div>
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    Bully pulpit.

    DD
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Thanks for posting this, OddsOn.

    I was in Malmö a few weeks ago (actually when the crazy sniper was still running around, shooting people that looked foreign, they have caught him in the meantime, fortunately). You see A LOT of women wearing headscarf, veil, etc. there.

    I believe this report is 100 % accurate. The same thing is happening in many places in Europe, and the various parties popping up are just a reaction to that - contrary to how they are portrayed, the people who vote for that are not racists, they are just fed up of what is shown in the video.

    But of course you will soon see the online islamist mob back on here again, trying to discredit it, you, me, everyone who points out the issue.

    Basically an online version of what you see in the video.
     
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  4. bigtexxx

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    Muslims have not integrated well in Europe at all. It's a disaster over there. It's a pity a nice, peaceful place like Sweden has to deal with that, basically due to their generosity of state benefits. It's really changing the complexion of Europe.
     
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  5. NJRocket

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    hmmm...lemme guess NOT ONE high ranking Muslim cleric went to Malmo to denounce all of this crap and speak out against his people...and they wonder why most of America (and the world) cant stand Islam and the Muslim "way"
     
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    Its funny how you post a year old youtube video.

    Here is the transcript/story to go along with it

    http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/556299.aspx
     
  7. NJRocket

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    so now theres a staute of limitations on this type of behavior?
     
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    What the Swedish Democrats say about being demonized is true. Many Swedes agree with their platform but are afraid to openly admit as much.

    Swedes are wired different than Americans and, in my opinion, feel that they can fix this problem by treating the Muslims with respect and will be met with respect in return. As you can see, this isn't happening. Swedes know how to live together and value the good of the whole over the good of the individual. It's a shame that these immigrants cannot integrate into the culture that THEY CHOSE.

    If they aren't willing to play nice, they need to revoke their residency and make them go back to where that kind of bull**** is the norm. They immigrated to Sweden for a reason. Why bring the crap that they were trying to escape to a place that doesn't have it? Swedes are tolerant, mild mannered, and decent. It's disgusting what these people are doing to a beautiful and peaceful country.
     
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    This has nothing to do with Islam. Arabs are naturally violent.
     
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    Like GlenRice said, this is more of a Palestine/Israel situation, or so it seems from the video. No need to drag Islam into it.
    Plus, our friend Lars Hedegaard is a big time anti-Muslim extremist. Here are some of his quotes from Wiki:

    Clearly, there is a hint of propaganda in the video. But also, the demonstration part is definitely something that makes me shake my head.
     
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  14. rockbox

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    It may be in the culture. In Darfur, its a Muslim on Muslim thing. Arabs killing the blacks and both are predominantly Muslim.

    In non Arab muslim countries, you don't see nearly as much violence.
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    Thanks for the link. No, I was unaware of that site.

    But after I put the link to that other site there from memory and clicked on it to see if that was the correct link, I found this news article:

    http://minivannews.com/society/isla...nt-to-sever-diplomatic-ties-with-israel-13703

    Islamic Foundation calls on government to sever diplomatic ties with Israel


    The Islamic Foundation of the Maldives has called on the government to break off all diplomatic ties with Israel, a day after Indira Gandhi Memorial Hospital (IGMH) announced that a team of seven Israeli doctors is due to arrive in the country to treat patients at the government hospital for a week.

    The Foundation requested the government terminate all ties with Israel saying ”we do not want any sort of assistance from Jews.”


    President of the Islamic Foundation Ibrahim Fauzy said that the organisation did not support accepting “any sort of assistance from Israel as long as they are in the lands of Palestine. We should fear that we might have to face the wrath of God.”

    Fauzy explained that the Islamic Foundation does not recognise Israel as a state as “they have stolen the lands of Palestine by power and force,” adding that “it also against our religion to have relationships with Jews.”

    In November last year, Foreign Minister Dr Ahmed Shaheed narrowly survived a no-confidence motion for his role in deciding to normalise relations with the Jewish state.

    Dr Shaheed told Minivan News today that the “government does not have diplomatic relations with Israel” and has not signed any agreements to that effect.

    He added that he was not aware of the visiting Israeli team as “doctors don’t come through the Foreign Ministry.”

    Fauzy also claimed to have information that Israel was attempting to influence the education policy of the government, which has come under fire from religious NGOs for plans to make Islam an optional subject in A’ Levels and change four secondary schools in Male’ to single-sex schools.

    ”There will be cunning plans of them behind the scenes, they will not wish any good for Muslims, inside their heart,” Fauzy alleged.

    In a press release yesterday, IGMH invited interested patients to register at their customer relations counter between November 28 and December 2 for appointments with the visiting Israeli doctors.
     
  16. AroundTheWorld

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    I may be ignorant, but Pakistanis are not Arabs, right? There is a fair amount of violence going on there.

    And when I posted something about Nigerian muslims killing christians there, people here were outraged and gave the standard response: "This has nothing to do with islam".
     
  17. s land balla

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    Correct
     
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    I personally believe that culture picks and shapes the religion and not the other way around.

    There has been violence in the name of almost every religion/non religion through out history. What religion were the Germans during WWII? What religion was were the Chinese and Russians during the communist revolution. What religion was most of Europe during the dark ages? What religion were the Americans when we wiped out the natives?

    Violent people just want an excuse and they will find it in anything.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    Old articles? How about one from yesterday:

    http://www.tz-online.de/nachrichten/muenchen/imam-nach-misshandlung-seiner-frau-haft-1029261.html

    Let me translate that one for you as it doesn't seem to have hit the English-speaking news media yet:

    Wife severely injured? Munich Imam arrested

    Munich - The well known Imam of the Darul Quran mosque has been arrested due to suspicion of battery. He apparently broke several bones of one of his wives.

    [​IMG]
    Entrance to Darul Quran mosque in Munich

    A police spokesman confirmed a report by "Bayerischer Rundfunk" (BR; Bavarian Broadcasters) on Tuesday night in Munich. An investigation is pending and an arrest warrant has been issued.

    According to BR, the islamic cleric mistreated one of his three wives already a week ago. Sheik Abu Adam severely injured the 31-year old woman, she suffered several broken bones and had to be freed by police from the 40-year old man's apartment. Police had been alerted by an attorney who was called by the victim. The woman is currently under police protection.

    According to the report, the islamic cleric, who publicly preached frequently against violence and the Jihad, was a welcome guest at the "integration meetings" held by the social services department of the city. One week before his arrest, he held a speech at the Catholic University community.
     
  20. Depressio

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    Damn. Lost respect for Sweden. I thought the majority there were atheist like Norway (over 80% there)... guess not all Scandinavian countries are alike!
     

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