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Vince Young, Racism and Manhood

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Sep 11, 2008.

  1. BigBenito

    BigBenito Member

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    Some wonderloc scores found via google:

    Hot damn, that Alex Smith is going to be the greatest quarter back ever!
     
  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Vince Young's first score was a 6. That's below the level of literacy.

    Looking at your list, it's clear that a high Wonderlic correlates to success. Yes there are some exceptions, like smith, but if you ran a regression on that statistic, you'd come up with some very good p values.
     
  3. plutoblue11

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    So you would take the results of a standardized test, complete disregard someone's talent level, motivation, and leadership skills.

    Let's see Terry Bradshaw, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Randall Cunningham, Elvis Grbac, and few others scored below 17. What happened with most of these players?

    Derek Anderson - 19

    Most of busts in recent drafts have come from the higher end (40-35). I haven't heard of half of these guys, except for Eli Manning.

    I don't care how great Wonderlic is at measure someone's success outlook or possibly IQ, it can't measure talent and heart. Let's just be honest.
     
  4. plutoblue11

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    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Alex Smith - 40 sucks
    Eli Manning - 39 wasn't good even though he won SB
    Matt Leinart - 35 sucks
    Tom Brady - 33 good
    Steve Young - 33 good
    Joey Harrington - 32 sucks
    Quincy Carter - 30 sucks
    Rex Grossman - 29 sucks
    Troy Aikman - 29 good
    Matt Hasselbeck - 29 good
    Peyton Manning - 28 good
    Akili Smith - 26 sucks
    Byron Leftwich - 25 sucks
    Ben Roethlisberger - 25 good
    David Carr - 24 sucks
    Brett Favre - 22 good
    Michael Vick - 20 sucks
    Dan Marino - 16 good
    Vince Young - 15 sucks
    Steve McNair - 15 good
    Donovan McNabb -14 good
    Brock Berlin - 13 sucks
    Marcus Vick - 11 sucks

    Don't see any type of correlation. Dan Marino and Brett Favre are two of the greatest QB's ever and they didn't score too great on their wonderlics.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    The test is only part of a total player evaluation. Nothing more, nothing less. It isn't meant to measure heart or talent. But you have to admit a 6 for a QB raises a question mark. That score is almost below the scale. Regarding heart, I think that is a big part of VY's problem.
     
  7. halfbreed

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    From what I recall, his first score wasn't a 6. It was first falsely REPORTED as a 6.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    riiight... so why then, did he take it a second time?

    He scored a 6.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    hes got that itis

    to many ribs.
     
  10. dandorotik

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    Wow, pass or fail. Too bad there aren't any quarterbacks who fall into the category between good and sucks.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    Yeah it is a pretty small sampling to draw any conclusions from, especially when you're dealing in absolutes.

    If someone could produce a list of starting QBs since the test began being administered then we might get a better picture.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    how many samples do you need, there are only so many "good" qbs in the league and historically. its a small size to begin with
     
  13. yaoluv

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    Quincy Carter. Genius.
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    There's no such thing as a mediocre QB.
     

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