Does the pick we trade have to be ours, or could it be the pick we get from Milwaukee? ------------------
UT Baller, I think the Bulls would probably want our pick. I would be willing to give it as long as there is some type of protection (top 3 protected) on it. I think if you put Fizer on this frontline, the Rockets will be no worse and likely better than last yr's squad. That means the pick we handed the Bulls would likely be anywhere from 9-14. I have no qualms giving Cato and that pick for Fizer considering the Rockets have a very capable 7 footer in Jason Collier and should be able to sign a legit shot blocker like Adonal Foyle and/or draft Ken Johnson in 2001 to fill in the shot blocking needs. This deal gives the two studs (Francis and Fizer) to build around, and the Rockets would have plenty of cap room and still a good amount of picks in the coming years to do that. ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
If we could get them down to a conditional pick, or a pick between now and 04 or 05, in exchange for giving them cap room (taking on Hawkins) that'd be great. But that probably won't happen. Fizer would be a sweet fit here. Getting TMac (Todd Maculloch), Foyle, Brad Miller, Jahidi White etc., in free agency to play center for a year is not too difficult, and then picking up a superb defender like the aftorementioned Johnson, Alvin Jones, or if we got into the top 3 (the reason for it being top 3 protected), Loren Woods also wouldn't be too farfetched (maybe Woods is), and would make us pretty tough to match up against. We'd have 10-15 million of cap room to play with, making us an even better target for trades of teams with high picks, wanting to rid themselves of overpriced players, and priming for free agency (similar to this year's Orlando-Clipper exchange). Does anyone else find it strange we're debating if the #4 pick is better than Cato? Remember, we all hate Cato? ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better. Collier is Seven Foot and Left Handed. How can you go wrong? Trade or bench Kenny Thomas.
This is all make believe posted by a Bulls' fan, so you may as well make it good... a case of Bud will do just fine. Now if the Bulls' fan will accept that much, is beyond me. ------------------ no fat chicks
I agree with IndianPlaya. We have a good center in Cato... while Fizer is a good talent, we need a center more than a power forward. And quality centers are harder to come by than power forwards anyway. I think that Cato will be a good center next season due to all the work his doing this offseason. ------------------ treasurer of the moochie norris fan club
other things-Collier flourished once leaving Indiana, which means he's a system player. And this system fits him very well, he fits like a piece of the puzzle, except he's a role player. pere-nba.com doesn't list Maculloch as a free agent (they also don't have Cuttino as unrestricted, so they may not be entirely accurate.) but, how would we get a center like White, Maculloch, or Miller, because they're all restricted, and I'd presume their teams would want to resign them to the exception? ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better. Collier is Seven Foot and Left Handed. How can you go wrong? Trade or bench Kenny Thomas.
The Chicago Tribune has that view from a Bulls fan article that we have seen in the past where the fans talk about their opinions. http://chicagosports.com/bulls/content/story/0,1984,56084,00.html Here is the interesting blurb from it. "I would trade Marcus Fizer to the Rockets for Kelvin Cato, C, and the Rockets' #1 draft choice in 2001. This would give the Bulls a quality center with youth and experience. Floyd coached Cato at Iowa State. Cato can help Brand with rebounding, defense, and shot blocking." I would make this deal as long as the Rockets #1 in 2001 is top 3 protected. I dont mind at all giving Cato and a 9-12 type pick for Fizer esp since Collier is in the fold. ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
yeah, that's why I was partly glad we got Pryzbilla. Gave us a ton of options, and prime trade bait. If we make this trade, we also get a 5.333333333333 million trade credit. Do we take the chance using Collier as a center if Hakeem goes down? Do we give up a pick? Tough decisions ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better. Collier is Seven Foot and Left Handed. How can you go wrong? Trade or bench Kenny Thomas.
If we had kept Przybilla then I would strongly consider it.... otherwise keep next year's pick (unless you can do a Milwaukee-esque Top 10-protected). If Duncan signs a one-year deal, then hell yeah -- do it right now "What does Houston want with Matt Bullard II in Jason Collier?" -- Sam Smith, Chicago Tribune ------------------ NOTHING BUT .NET CLUTCHCITY.NET
Bull's fan can bite me. That would be a risky trade with a #1 pick. Give up your starting Center who can block shots for an undersized PF with no NBA level experience... & sign a loser free agent big man, start either washed up Hakeem or no experience little defense Collier at the 5 & stick a short guy at the 4. Can you see the game day comparisons on the Rockets - Blazers. Wallace on Fizer & Collier on big S. Sweet Bull's fan this would certainly be a win lose situation, try Clipper camp on that deal!!! ------------------
Fizer measured 6'9''. That's not undersized. More thoughts on this trade: If we could do this trade, and then sign Miller, and maybe Foyle, I'd go for it. We'd have at the C/PF positions Hakeem-Miller-Foyle-Fizer-Collier-KT in the draft, with our other picks, we could look to try and get Morris or Battier, for defense at the SF, then with a late pick, nab grab a tall athletic rebounder/shotblocker-Ken Johnson or Alvin Jones. We'd be stacked at PF/C positions with diverse players, some of which can shoot, some can play D, some can post up, and all of them young. We'd also be a good 10-15 million under the cap that we could use on veterans, or save for another year. ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better. Collier is Seven Foot and Left Handed. How can you go wrong? Trade or bench Kenny Thomas. [This message has been edited by NIKEstrad (edited July 03, 2000).]
My one question on Fizer was his height. Since he was measured out at 6-9, I would definitely be interested in him. I think basketball wise he has excellent NBA potential and would really fit this team well. With the height question answered, Fizer has all the tools to be a stud PF in this league. As far as the pick thing. If it is top 3 protected, that is basically the same thing as being top 9 or top 10 protected. If the Rockets have the 9th worst record and did end up hitting the magic lotto ball, they would move into the top 3. That would allow them to keep the pick if top 3 protected. If they stay at the 9th or 10th pick, then the Bulls would get it. That would be like giving Cato and the 9th or 10th pick for Fizer. I would have to second guess this deal, though, if the pick were unprotected. ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
To whoever asked about Pryz's head to head with OSU & Ken Johnson: 1/9/2000 OSU-71 Min-63 Pryz 7-14 FG 14 rbs 7 Blks Johnson 1-4 FG 6 rbs 7 Blks Pretty good numbers against a future NBA player (Johnson). Pryz didn't play in 2nd meeting. Which OSU also won. ------------------
