Yes, i am. I mentioned in a previous post it was not a severe case. That doesn't disqualify anything I have mentioned, including that last post about kyphosis. There's structural and functional scoliosis, which means it can already be present or it can develop in time. If it can be developed, then it can also be worsened. Therefore, someone like tmac, who has structural scoliosis, can make it worse. Like i explained earlier, it can worsen due to muscle imbalances developing or becoming more significant, which was very likely for tmac. The picture may be showing significant kyphosis, but even less than that would result in a protruding stomach.
So you got mad when I said McGrady was "fine" enough to play against the Jazz, but you're ok with describing McGrady's slight case of scoliosis as "not severe"? You're really reaching, aren't you. The likeliest reason is still that he slacked on rehab.
Has the scoliosis ever been verified? I have heard TMac mention it, but that guy has zero credibility, I mean he said he tore a tendon in his elbow when it was a slight strain. He is the definition of chicken little...... Not to mention he allegedly faked a back injury to take care of his paternity case in Orlando.... DD
You're completely ignoring details and simplifying things to prove a point. You implied he was healthy that year, including the playoffs against the jazz. I got "mad" because it was widely known, even at the time, that he was having problems with his shoulder AND knee. This was no secret at all. There's discussion on this very board about it. In fact, this board is where i read the reports from at the time. He had pain and swelling in those joints, so how is that "fine"? Why would that not make it ok for me to describe Tmac's scoliosis as not severe? He initially had a slight case of scoliosis, just like you said. Initially, as in when he came into the league. What about now? 10 years + of action, injuries, surgeries, not properly taking care of the scoliosis or imbalances, etc...don't you think perhaps it became worse over time? It's not reaching, it's science. Even a car won't get better or remain the same if it's alignment is off. It's going to start wearing out parts and tires and the alignment will get worse. The body is no different. The likeliest reason is still that he slacked off? Either you're not understanding what i've posted or refusing to hear it. I've given you factual information and you have chosen to not include it to determine what was "likely". Could he have slacked off? Yes, he could have. Is it the most logical and likely reason, based on what we saw, read, and knew? NO WAY. I'm still waiting for you to show proof that all these other athletes, who have surgery, maintain themselves in top shape throughout it and the rehab. Unless It's dental surgery, i don't see that happening, especially when it's two surgeries, two major joints, upper and lower body. Yao would have gained alot more weight if he had shoulder surgery along with his foot surgery. He was at least able to go near 100% on his upper body.
Not sure. I haven't seen or read about an official report, but at least three professionals with NBA ties have reported significant issues with his body's alignment and/or muscle imbalances. That includes the witch doc and Grover, who i know people can be skeptical about, but ive also read a report from a Bulls trainer back when Tmac came into the league. IIRC, he checked him out and advised the bulls to look out for it. I guess that's one reason they didn't trade Pippen for tmac, along with MJ threatening to retire. So, I don't see how Tmac couldn't have scoliosis after reading what they found. Remember its cause can be functional also, so if he really wasn't born with it, then he developed it at some point. Keep in mind a lot of people are walking around with scoliosis. It sounds like it would be rare, but it's just a curving of the spine. That could happen to someone who just sits improperly at their desk for long periods of time.
There were no structural defects. Pain and swelling is the result of years of wear and tear. His arthroscopic surgery was intended to relieve the pain, but it wasn't required. Yes, slacking is the most logical and likeliest reason. Based on how you've been describing scoliosis, it sounds like it gets progressively worse over the years. However, with McGrady, you're alleging that his slight scoliosis suddenly exacerbated right after he got arthroscopic surgery. What're the odds of that happening? Happens all the time. In fact, Carmelo Anthony just had arthroscopic surgery on his knee and an elbow procedure this past offseason and he's in game shape.
Again, you claimed he was fine. I don't care if it was due to wear and tear, scoliosis, or alien activity. A player isn't "fine" if he has swelling, pain, and loose bodies ( which were cleeaned up during surgery). And again, you're ignoring his shoulder injury. Pain and swelling from a torn labrum. what i'm saying is he probably had a slight gut already. Add 5-10 pounds, some inactivity that worsens the imbalances over 3 months, and you have a larger or more prominent gut that fnally shows through his uniform.The odds aren't as low as you'd think. Again, let's not act like he went from a six pack to beer belly. The change wasnt very significant. LMAO. Seriously? Did you forget the season started 4 months late? He had surgery in May, just like tmac. Assuming the rehab of both took 3 months, that means tmac went straight into camp, while Melo still had 4 months to get into shape. NOT the same time table.
There's really nothing more i can say, so i'll end with this, to give some credibility to the comment i made earlier about the Bulls trainer who examined Tmac: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/2m5h6a
I don't care about his shoulder injury. It didn't become a recurring problem. He was "fine" in the sense that he didn't require surgery. Every player has wear and tear on their body. It's a result of playing in the NBA. Based on the pictures I gave earlier, the change was indeed significant. You think the normal regular season starts in late August? Don't forget that Carmelo played in some of those pickup basketball games this past offseason. Battle of I-95 was in September, right?
damn, that was a sick block by t-mac on dirk @ 3:09! "bu bu but t-mac doesn't play any defense!" lol...
I remember the Tmac that helped us through the 22 wins in a row, the one that scored 13 points in 33 seconds but also the one who never really seemed want to filter his thoughts before he spoke to the media. He seemed to like to put extra pressure on himself, maybe to try to elevate the pressure or something. I remember that near trade for Vince Carter that "would've" pushed us towards a "deep" run into the playoffs with perhaps a good combo of Artest/Carter but Mcgrady decides to have knee surgery without consulting his GM/owner THEREFORE negating any possible trade. RESULTING in the "throwing his team mates/city" under the bus. Yeah I do understand if you're tired of always being the only player to carry a team but.. Remember when Lebron James was in Cleveland and was taking his team to new heights? He carried them all the way to the finals one year even.. He never said anything that was significantly detrimental to the media about his team, he said the "appropriate" things. I remember the good and the bad but I remember a Tmac that coasted through games and don't forget his injuries were piling up. I understood that he was getting injured but when R.Adelman wanted to use him as a reserve and slowly start to play him more minutes, Tmac's wonderful ego didn't allow him to admit he was finally on the decline. He can still score with the best of them, but he's not as athletically gifted anymore. No one can deny that his stay had more potential to be better than the S.Francis/C.Mobley era but he had all this worldly talent but no mental strength to fully dominate. Oh well, here's to our new franchise player.. who ever that may be.
