I am outraged at the outrage shown by those who are also outraged. There's just so much outrage on both sides here. I'm outraged at this, I'm outraged at the prison torture/abuse, there's just so much to be outraged at these days. Are you Outraged, T_J?
its not on the same plane...we made iraqi soldiers dress up and embarrass themselves.....they killed a civilian and chanted "God is great" right before they did.
Hilarious!! Trying to cover up your shaming, I see. LMAO!!! You got caught with your pants around your ankles when I pointed out to you that Rumsfeld cited a connection between Iraq and terror. OOPS! What an embarrassing situation you put yourself in when you post a link that directly disputes your words. Sad, really. OWNED
I'm gonna agree with twhy here, both suck. It's a shame we can't really say any condolences or anything now as this thread has become yet another battleground.
What sickens me about this is that we are ashamed at many of the abuses committed by our soldiers against *prisoners*. We are embarrassed that the information leaked out. These animals we are fighting are committing much worse acts against totally innocent people and purposefully broadcasting it to the world. That's the difference in this war.
Have you not been listening or paying attention? There are video tapes showing torture and probably murder that we haven't seen. There are photos we haven't seen claiming all sorts of atrocities
So even though you haven't seen them, you are here to undeniably proclaim that they are worse than beheading an innocent man on video and shouting God is great? WOW. What a great liberal you are!
I have stated that what has happened was terrible and I find it disgusting. Don't put words in my mouth.
Hmmm....let me try and digest this. YOU want to know if I am paying attention because I should be fully aware of non existant pieces of evidence that probably show some bad things done to the enemy? You MUST be kidding
There are video tapes showing torture and probably murder that we haven't seen. There are photos we haven't seen claiming all sorts of atrocities those words? you did a good job of doing it yourself
Pennsylvania family of man who was beheaded cries when learning details By Jason Straziuso, Associated Press, 5/11/2004 14:24 WEST CHESTER, Pa. (AP) The family of a businessman who was beheaded after he was captured in Iraq cried Tuesday when they learned details of his videotaped death. A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site showed the beheading of Nick Berg, 26, of West Chester, whose family last heard from him April 9. It said the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers. Berg's family said earlier Tuesday that they were told by the U.S. State Department that Berg was found dead near a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday. When told of the video by an Associated Press reporter, Berg's father, Michael, and his two siblings hugged and cried. They knew he had been decapitated, but didn't know the details of the killing. ''I knew he was decapitated before. That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public,'' Michael Berg said. Berg's mother, Suzanne Berg, said her son was in Iraq as an independent businessman to help rebuild communication antennas. Berg owned a communications equipment company, Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc., she said. ''He had this idea that he could help rebuild the infrastructure,'' she said. The military said Tuesday that an American civilian was found dead in Baghdad, but did not release his name. Suzanne Berg the family had been trying for weeks to learn where her son was but that federal officials had not been helpful. ''I went through this with them for weeks,'' she said. ''I basically ended up doing most of the investigating myself.'' Berg was in Baghdad from late December to Feb. 1 and had returned to Iraq in March. He didn't find any work and planned again to return home on March 30, but his daily communications home stopped on March 24. He later told his parents he was jailed by Iraqi officials at a checkpoint in Mosul. ''He was arrested and held without due process,'' Michael Berg told the Daily Local News of West Chester. ''By the time he got out, the whole area was inflamed with violence.'' On March 31, the FBI interviewed Berg's parents in West Chester. Jerri Williams, a spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI office, told The Philadelphia Inquirer the agency had been ''asked to interview the parents regarding Mr. Berg's purpose in Iraq.'' On April 5, the Bergs filed a lawsuit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military. The next day Berg was released. He told his parents he hadn't been mistreated. Then they didn't hear from him after April 9.
Oh, I'm sorry. When Rumsfeld says: "RUMSFELD: If you’re asking if there’s a direct link between 9/11 and Iraq, the answer is no." I interpreted that as meaning there is no link. But your lack of reading comprehension certainly explains your fringe right positions.
"sigh" why even try anymore? I stand by what I said. This act was horrible and didn't need to happen.
"So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us but coffins after coffins...slaughtered in this way."
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! krosfyah, your attempt at covering up your mistake by changing the focus to 9-11 as opposed to terror is simply laughable. bwa ha ha ha ha Fact: Rumsfeld stated there there was a connection between terror and Iraq. This alone makes your statement dead in the water. Oh, I'm sure you'll once again ignore your hideous error and try to say that there were no ties between 9-11 and Iraq. This is truly irrelevant to this debate. When you learn that let me know. You just aren't able to grasp that terror and 9-11 are not interchangeable, as you attempted to do in your folly. Sorry. Please go practice in the minor leagues before stepping up to bat against The _Conquistador. Isn't there a "What's in your CD player" thread that you can practice in? GOOD DAY
Why try, mc mark? One is sick and twisted and the other just delights in getting people to take him seriously. I don't have anyone currently on ignore, but this blight on the state of New Jersey is heading for that distinction, when I get around to it. Trader_J... I just laugh at.