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Video Seems to Show Beheading of American

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Murdock, May 11, 2004.

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  1. DaDakota

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    I feel for the man's family.

    Makes me want to turn the middle east into a parking lot.

    :mad:
     
  2. AMS

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    glad youre not in charge...

    since when do the actions of a few justify punishment to the rest?
     
  3. Sishir Chang

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    This was an inhuman act and fully deserving of moral outrage.


    That said it is sad to see those who still continue to seek to justify and defend the Admin's record in Iraq by trying to draw some sort of moral equivalent between this event and the what US troops did at Abu Graib.

    The only way any moral equivalence can be drawn is if you believe that are troops are in the same moral ballpark as the terrorists. The terrorist have IMO have long since given up their humanity while I would hope that our troops have not.

    We rightfully should condemn the terrorist who commit these brutal attrocities but at the same time we should expect to hold our troops to a higher level. We are not terrorists and it does us no good to excuse the failings of our troops by trying to draw some sort of moral equivalency with what the terrorists do.

    We and the rest of the World expects our troops to not even be in the same moral neighborhood as the terrorists. To excuse reprehensible acts by our soldiers by pointing out that the terrorists do far worse undercuts our own goal of setting a moral example.
     
  4. Batman Jones

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    Just to clarify and EXPOSE myself, when I said I agreed with everything twhy said I was lying. I'd only read #1. I stopped reading #2 at the intro. I definitely don't agree with his characterization of Islam, regardless of the 'radical' disclaimer.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    You'd be right at home in Al Qaeda. That's exactly how they think. I understand your anger, but if you can't separate your emotions from the impulse to bomb all brown people what you're calling for is a global version of the Hatfields and McCoys. If you truly think this way the terrorists have truly won. You're doing EXACTLY what they want you to.
     
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    Thanks for expressing what should go on the microphones in the Senate before Leiberman and Inhofe ever get to speak again.
     
  7. giddyup

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    Seems like what we really chose was to piss away a good opportunity to get this guy in favor of kissing up to the lily-livered world community in a doomed attempt to build a sufficient concensus that Saddam should go now since he hasn't lived up to his conditions of surrender from 12 years ago.

    I thought this was Bush's War?
     
  8. Murdock

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    Muslim Group Condemns US Contractor's Murder

    (CNSNews.com) - A Muslim group Tuesday condemned the murder of a U.S. contractor who was beheaded by a group claiming links to al Qaeda. "We condemn this cold-blooded murder and repudiate all those who commit such acts of mindless violence in the name of religion. We call on people of all faiths and cultures to work together for peace and reconciliation, not war and destruction," the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said in a statement. A video posted on an Islamic militant web site showed the murder of a Philadelphia man identified as Nick Berg, whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday.


    http://www.cnsnews.com//ThisHour.asp#Muslim Group Condemns US Contractor's%20Murder
     
  9. Batman Jones

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    Not good enough. They're still brown. A few brown people committed a heinous murder of an American. All good Americans should therefore kill all brown people. Right, DaDa? NJ? Um, Chance?
     
  10. NJRocket

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    just a matter of time....hopefully
     
  11. Batman Jones

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    You're an embarassment to the United States of America. You're also Osama Bin Laden's favorite kind of American. Congratulations.
     
  12. Jeff Gundy

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    You sound like John Kerry.

    No you don't.

    Yes you do.
     
  13. mc mark

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    Seriously...

    Believe me it's Americans like NJ that scare me more than any terrorist.
     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    I totally agree that the war on terror (unlike the failed war on drugs) MUST be fought and must be won. I differ with the administration on strategy and agree with John Kerry in that we must fund that living dogsh!t out of the intelligence services so that we will have the best intelligence anywhere and once those services find a terrorist cell, we send in covert teams to take them out.

    The war in Iraq is doing nothing but beginning the gestation of a new crop of terrorists. As was mentioned in a post above, we need to cut off the RECRUITING of terrorists rather than trying to kill them when they are already fanatical and dangerous.
     
  15. Batman Jones

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    Yeah, Gundy. Expressing an opinion without reading something really calls Kerry to mind... LOL.

    mark: NJ Rocket is Bin Laden's dream American. He couldn't build a robot to carry his message any better.
     
  16. NJRocket

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    Does it make you feel better to verbally attack anyone with a different opinion?
     
  17. Batman Jones

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    Only when that different "opinion" calls for genocide against an entire region. But it doesn't make me feel very much better. There are others like you out there -- thankfully an incredibly small minority of Americans -- and that scares the holy hell out of me.
     
  18. GladiatoRowdy

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    You are an absolute disgrace and do not deserve to be an American.
     
  19. NJRocket

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    Well , we are at war with an entire region. Should we try to give them all the flu and then leave?

    I'm starting to think its a northern thing...I haven't talked to a single person about what has been going on in Iraq that doesn't agree with me to some extent. Granted I dont get in full fledged debates over it, but for the most part, most people up here that I have discussed it with think that we should wipe out the entire region and make nice golf courses and vacation spots. Hell, the weather is a given. Sure beats Florida in the winter where the weather isn;t guaranteed. Know what i mean BJ? Andy? Sammy?
     
  20. mc mark

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    Funny most of the people I've discussed this with in New York have quite the opposite opinion.

    Guess it's a New York - New Jersey thing. Well we know how NYers feel about Jersey anyway right?
     
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