Yeah, indirectly challenging the cop to fight, then suggesting I "hurt" myself. Wow. You are not going to last long on this forum.
Really? Your use of an otherwise feared-by-an-entire-world disease for a practical personal joke is bad, sir. Why not joke about her car having a flat tire or her garments getting ripped at the cleaners, or something with less human effect than "I tested positive for HIV"?!?!? She didn't do anything "Worse"? So tell me... everyone who gets arrested RESISTS it? I didn't know that... where are you getting this awesome comparison basis from?
So... debate is now called challenging people to fights? Interesting. And you should of slapped yourself for that comment. Seriously, I wasn't challenging you to a fight. I was hoping you would of challenged yourself to a fight and beat the crap out of yourself for making such a ridiculous statement.
And you were indirectlychallenging someone to a fight. Please tell what you have done to that old lady instead of calling for back up. Chances are, if back up arrived she would have still resisted arrest and 2 cops would be looking at trouble instead of one. 72 years old = 72 years years of knowledge.
I can't believe anybody found that video funny. It was sad and disturbing. Anything she did wrong was trumped by what the cop did. It wasn't even just the tazing... pushing and shoving her around before hand was also excessive. I understand that some force is needed if you want to put cuffs on any person that is resisting but shortly after he asked her to get out of the car, she said she was willing to sign the ticket. Even if she had already been argumentative and he wanted to arrest her, he should have been able to see at that point that she was not completely unwilling to do what was asked of her. He just needed to show a little more patience and respect for a an old lady (even if the law doesn't require it) and none of that crap would have happened. For anybody that laughed, imagine if your mother or grandmother got tazed. Your argument may be that your mother or grandmother wouldn't argue with a cop like that in the first place but it's not like the lady in that video was wielding a knife and threatening the cop's life. Apparently, it doesn't take much to get tazed these days.
Well in the last video, the man was obviously aggressive towards the cop. And the cop coward down. In the video with the Fire Captain, he actually did resist arrest at first which the video doesn't show. Why wasn't he taken down with force? And the Cop vs Cop video... the officer actually used his head and called for backup and got the situation under control. All of those videos ended more calmly than the woman getting tasered. Try to justify it all you want. The cop is clearly a bag-o-douche.
Maybe that's your relative, ILoveTheRockets... somehow... and that's why you're defending her...? I can't see any other reason why he's still saying she shouldn't have been treated this way? Just say so, sir, and I'll stop talking about her resisting arrest and mouthing off an officer.
I think you're wrong. And by "cop reality shows", i'm assuming you are referring to the one called COPS where they NEVER show anybody who shows up or gets away from an officer. Yeah, wonder why they look so nice on that show... The real problem here IMHO is the way law enforcement use traffic stops. I think people would hate cops less if they weren't traffic ticket machines. Their primary purpose is to enforce the local favorite laws (whether it be drugs, alcohol, or speed trap) and generate revenue for their city or county. They use traffic violations as bait almost when they are really fishing for "larger" busts, and considering how many traffic violations I see committed by other drivers in a mere ten minute drive from my apartment, I don't really feel comfortable paying the 'price' of being pulled over, profiled and harassed at the will of the guy with a gun. Are they really keeping us safe with all the time they spend on the side of the road?
Any cop that tasers an Elderly person is a turd, no matter how you look at it. Elderly people have a greater chance of dying from Tasers than younger people, because majority of them have bad hearts. It is Common Sense not to taser an elderly person, which the cop obviously doesn't have common sense.
Unless I missed that part, I never saw, either in the video, or in any print story, anything about the woman ever complying with the officer to sign the ticket. She was trying to leave from the moment he pulled her over.
Did you see the way she asked to sign the ticket? If you want someone to treat you with respect you gotta show it. She didn't ask nicely, she was rude and combative. I'm not defending the cop for this, but I don't see it out of line.
I don't know too much about how real the danger is of being tasered, but I have to admit that while watching the video, it looked very dangerous with them scuffling so close to traffic. She was so determined to get back to her car that she needed to be physically restrained. Everyone keeps saying that he should be able to handle a 72 year old woman, but I think that it's more complicated than that. If it's a healthy 30 year old man the cop can use his full force and strength to take the guy down and put the cuffs on. You can't do that with an old lady. Even if he tries real hard to put the cuffs on he could realistically break her arm. The taser might have hurt but she didn't end up with any lasting damage like a broken arm or even more broken bones. I guess that he could have avoided hurting her by letting her get back in her car and drive away.
Dude, it's a 72 year old grandmother. How much can she resist? Is the cop that weak, that he can't take control of the situation? She shouldn't have been treated like that. You can sit there and try to justify it any way you please.
