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[video] 72 year old Texas granny tasered

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Faos, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. Icehouse

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    So how would you have preferred that he detain her, on the side of a highway? And please don't say stuff like let her go back to her car, or let her go...i.e. things that a cop would not allow for you, me, or 98% of the rest of the population in the same situation. He tried to cuff her...and she pushed him off as well.
     
  2. TheBigAristotle

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    The old lady acted like a b**** and didn't comply. What else would you have done?
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    The officer shoved her back and tazed her. This was over a technicality regarding signing the ticket. The officer himself contributed to escalating the situation.
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm not defending her at all. She is clearly in the wrong but there are other considerations.
    I agree wrestling her isn't safe either but so is tazing her. As far as her going back to the car to get something there is no evidence to support that she wasn't doing anything more than trying to leave.
    If a cop injured you over something like this you would be well within your rights to sue the cop. I'm not a black male but I understand there is a certain fear when dealign with cops from black males. Whether you are a black male or not I agree everyone should cooperate with the police. At the same time though police have a responsibility to restrain themselves too and consider bigger issues.

    Although some cops think this way getting a badge isn't a license to @ss kick or to demand respect. I think the police deserve respect but like it or not many people don't give cops the respect they deserve. That doesn't mean cops are free to take them down. I can tell you from training with police that restraint is critical to being a good officer.
     
  5. Ottomaton

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    If you refuse to sign the ticket, you are refusing to agree to a summons to appear. If you fail to sign the ticket, and the cop doesn't arrest you on the spot and bring you before a judge, your speeding ticket didn't happen.

    Signing the summons is what allows the cops to release you. It isn't just some technicality. If you refuse to sign, the cop is required to arrest you.
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    Is this a recent Texas thing? I've never had to sign a ticket even when a lived in Texas. It seems like a pretty poor law.
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    It is the law everywhere that I've ever been. As someone who's been getting tickets in many states for the past quarter decade, the cops in every state and jurisdiction that I've been pulled over in have always required a signature. I think I've gotten a moving violation of some kind in about 6 states.

    I've never been pulled over in Minnesota, but I have a really hard time that they don't do it too.

    Edit - I just googled one and apparently they only require that the officer certifies that they gave the ticket to you. Learn something new every day.
     
  8. Duncan McDonuts

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    That shove is a taught police move meant to keep the detainee out of traffic. It is not only for her safety but also the safety of the drivers on the road. The shove is perfectly justified and for safety reasons.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    Nope. I got a ticket a few months ago. For all things improper lane usage and they didn't make me sign for it.

    The last speeding ticket I got was in 2000 in Wisconsin and they didn't make me sign for it.
    Yep..
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    That is a good point.
     
  11. Icehouse

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    This is the part that you aren't getting. Cops, especially those risking their lives by pulling folks over on the road, don't need evidence to stop you from going back to your car when you have been ordered to get away from your vehicle. Typically when folks are told to back away from their car (which happens often), they do what they are told. Not doing that could make one wonder why is this person going back to their car.

    Again, let's not bring up things that the cop should have let her do that they would normally not let anyone do. I'm not a cop but I'm gonna put my nuts on the table and assume in training, they tell cops (for their own safety) if someone is removed from their vehicle and you tell them to stay away, then you don't let them say F you I'm going back to my vehicle for whatever reason. THAT IS NOT SAFE!!!!
     
  12. ILoveTheRockets

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    Give his ass a desk job and a coke.
     
  13. ima_drummer2k

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    So you think everyone should be treated equally by the police? Except for this lady?

    You can't have it both ways.
     
  14. cavevato

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    Are you being serious?
     
  15. Dei

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    What's hard to believe about what he said?
     
  16. Codman

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    Videos like these make me little to no respect for any type of "road" police.

    Go investigate a murder or something before you tase a disgruntled grandma.
     
  17. Icehouse

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    Yes, because disgruntled grandmas get to refuse to sign tickets, refuse to be arrested when the cop chooses one of his options after you choose to not sign the ticket (this is the killer to me...how many folks will a cop release after they are like you aint arresting me), dare the cop to detain her, try to disobey the cop's instructions (which he has the right to give) by going back to her car, and ignore the cop's threat of detainment another time. You don't get to do all of this just because you are old. We don't have laws and police procedures for different age ranges.
     
  18. cavevato

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    That officers are trained to shove people to keep them out of traffic? Is that real? It looked to me that he pushed her so she wouldnt get in the truck
     
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    I don't think I'd want a traffic enforcement officer investigating murders.

    As for the 72 year old: would hit.
     
  20. Shaud

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    Good, keep these thugs off the street
     

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