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Vick - 6 yr - $100M Deal

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Icehouse, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    I wonder why guys pick football over baseball. Jason werth makes more than brady, manning, and vick and he isn't the only scrub making more than all these football players. He can't be cut and every dime is guaranteed.
     
  2. Shroopy2

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    NO kidding.

    I think its mostly black athletes who don't consider baseball more. Its often mentioned how participation by blacks has lessened in baseball over the years. Then in baseball it just takes TIME to break into the big leagues from the first day you're drafted.

    Still, we can't be too sure if it even IS about "picking" one sport over another. Can we say for absolute certain Andre Johnson and Michael Vick were destined to be as good in baseball as in football? Maybe Tom Brady DID try baseball and wasnt gonna be good at it no matter how hard he tried.

    Buy yeah not that many "Jeff Samardzija" types passing up the football for baseball.
     
  3. dharocks

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    For most guys, I don't think it's a matter of "picking" one over the other. Baseball is easily the most difficult of the major sports, skills-wise.
     
  4. Shaud

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    Exactly it's not like these guys are equally talented in both sports where they have to choose.

    If these football players chose baseball over football they most likely wouldn't make more money than they are making for football.
     
  5. Two Sandwiches

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    Am I the only one that thinks 100 MILLION is a bit premature?

    The guy had a great year last year, but it was only one season. Yeah, he was good before jail time, but I don't think he was 100 million good.
     
  6. Tigerknee

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    Again, that amount isn't guaranteed.

    That's the beauty of the NFL. Do good, you get paid. Suck? You don't get paid.
     
  7. Two Sandwiches

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    I understand, and agree that that does make it a little better.

    I just think it's a bit premature to give Vick another huge contract. What if he sucks this year? Who knows what'll happen...


    But then again, it's hard for me to argue against it when you have rookie quarterbacks, that haven't played a down, signing huge deals. (Albeit not anymore)
     
  8. Icehouse

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    Well we will see an example soon, with that kid who won the Elite 11. He's a pro prospect in both sports.
     
  9. Major

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    Jason Werth also had to prove himself for 7 years in the minors making peanuts, and then spend another 6 years under club control before getting his big contract at age 32. If he doesn't survive all 13 of those years, he probably never gets a big payday of any sort.

    Vick, on the other hand, got a guaranteed tens of millions the day he was drafted.
     
  10. juicystream

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    750 ML roster spots (actually, thinking about it, I think the entire 40-man receives ML money, so 1,200 spots)

    1,696 NFL roster spots

    Most players drafted in the NFL, play in the NFL. Most players drafted in MLB never make it. I would still pick baseball, but it would be for health reasons.
     
  11. Lil Pun

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    Nice breakdown of the deal here:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast

    By now, you've surely seen that Michael Vick's new six-year, $100 million contract with the Philadelphia Eagles is neither, truly, a six-year deal nor a $100 million deal. It can be, sure, but it's certainly not likely to last that long or pay out that much. This is the NFL, where contracts aren't fully guaranteed and the complexities of the salary cap make it easy to twist the numbers to make them look the way you want them to look. Calling it a $100 million deal is a team concession in negotiations -- makes the player and the agent look good.

    Our man Andrew Brandt has a full breakdown of the deal, and there are interesting quirks to it. For instance, the sixth year (and its $20 million salary) disappears if Vick takes at least 35 percent of the team's snaps in any of the first five years. Since that's certain to happen, the deal is really only a five-year, $80 million deal even if all of the non-guaranteed money comes in.

    There are also interesting stipulations tied to Eagles team success in the first two years of the deal -- specifically, the Super Bowl. If Vick and the Eagles win the Super Bowl in either of the next two years, he gets a $3 million bonus. His 2013 salary ($16.5 million, of which only $3 million is guaranteed for injury) would drop by $500,000 for each year of the first two in which he does not reach the Super Bowl. And while he's scheduled to make (a non-guaranteed) $15.5 million in 2014, that number would go up by $500,000 if he reaches the Super Bowl in any of the deal's first three years, $1 million if he wins one of those three Super Bowls or $2.5 million if he wins at least two of them.

    So the guaranteed money is only $35.5 million over the next three years -- $20 million this year, $12.5 million in 2012 and a $3 million injury guarantee in 2013. The injury guarantee becomes a full skill guarantee on the second day of waivers in 2013.

    But in short, this deal includes the kinds of incentives that fans like to see. The best thing Vick can do if he wants to maximize the value of his new contract is to win the Super Bowl. By now, no one should have any illusions about what the Eagles franchise is obsessing over these days.
     
  12. rrj_gamz

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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    old in football years, he basically took three years off. its the exact opposite
     
  14. Lil Pun

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  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    does anyone understand how vick could owe the agent $6MM
     

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