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Venezuela Update (hint: even worse than expected)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mr. Clutch, May 19, 2015.

  1. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    This is sad. The communist leadership criminalizes capitalism and free markets for normal citizens, thereby impoverishing them.

    Then they enrich themselves in the black drug markets.

    Step 3:????
    Step 4: Communist paradise!

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuelan-officials-suspected-of-turning-country-into-global-cocaine-hub-1431977784

    Venezuelan Officials Suspected of Turning Country into Global Cocaine Hub

    U.S. probe targets No. 2 official Diosdado Cabello, several others, on suspicion of drug trafficking and money laundering
    Diosdado Cabello, president of Venezuela’s National Assembly, is a leading target of U.S. investigations into alleged drug trafficking and money laundering by senior officials in the South American nation, a Justice Department official said. Mr. Cabello has denied wrongdoing.

    Diosdado Cabello, president of Venezuela’s National Assembly, is a leading target of U.S. investigations into alleged drug trafficking and money laundering by senior officials in the South American nation, a Justice Department official said. Mr. Cabello has denied wrongdoing.

    By JOSÉ DE CÓRDOBA and JUAN FORERO
    May 18, 2015 3:36 p.m. ET

    U.S. prosecutors are investigating several high-ranking Venezuelan officials, including the president of the country’s congress, on suspicion that they have turned the country into a global hub for cocaine trafficking and money laundering, according to more than a dozen people familiar with the probes.

    An elite unit of the Drug Enforcement Administration in Washington and federal prosecutors in New York and Miami are building cases using evidence provided by former cocaine traffickers, informants who were once close to top Venezuelan officials and defectors from the Venezuelan military, these people say.

    A leading target, according to a Justice Department official and other American authorities, is National Assembly President Diosdado Cabello, considered the country’s second most-powerful man.


    “There is extensive evidence to justify that he is one of the heads, if not the head, of the cartel,” said the Justice Department official, speaking of a group of military officers and top officials suspected of being involved in the drug trade. “He certainly is a main target.”

    Representatives of Mr. Cabello and other officials didn’t return phone calls and emails requesting comment. In the past, Venezuelan authorities have rejected allegations of high-ranking involvement in the drug trade as an attempt by the U.S. to destabilize the leftist government in Caracas.

    In an appearance on state television Wednesday, Mr. Cabello said he solicited a court-ordered travel ban on 22 executives and journalists from three Venezuelan news outlets that he has sued for publishing stories about the drug allegations earlier this year. “They accuse me of being a drug trafficker without a single piece of evidence and now I’m the bad guy,” Mr. Cabello said. “I feel offended, and none of them even said they’re sorry.”

    The Obama administration isn’t directing or coordinating the investigations, which are being run by federal prosecutors who have wide leeway to target criminal suspects. But if the probes result in publicly disclosed indictments of Mr. Cabello and others, the resulting furor in Venezuela would likely plunge relations between the two countries into their most serious crisis since the late populist Hugo Chávez took office 16 years ago.

    “It would be seismic,” said a U.S. official, of the expected Venezuelan reaction. “They will blame a vast right-wing conspiracy.”

    ENLARGE
    U.S. authorities say they are far along in their investigations. But they say any indictments that may result might be sealed, making them secret until authorities can make arrests—something that would be difficult if not impossible unless the suspects travel abroad.

    The investigations are a response to an explosion in drug trafficking in the oil-rich country, U.S. officials say. Under pressure in Colombia, where authorities aggressively battled the drug trade with $10 billion in U.S. aid since 2000, many Colombian traffickers moved operations to neighboring Venezuela, where U.S. law-enforcement officials say they found a government and military eager to permit and ultimately control cocaine smuggling through the country.

    “Most of the high-end traffickers moved to Venezuela in that time,” said Joaquín Pérez, a Miami attorney who represents key Colombian traffickers who have acknowledged operating out of Venezuela.

    Venezuela doesn’t produce coca, the leaf used to make cocaine, nor does it manufacture the drug. But the U.S. estimates that about 131 tons of cocaine, about half of the total cocaine produced in Colombia, moved through Venezuela in 2013, the last year for which data were available.

    Prosecutors aren’t targeting President Nicolás Maduro, who has been in power since Mr. Chávez’s death two years ago. U.S. law-enforcement officials say they view several other Venezuelan officials and military officers as the de facto leaders of drug-trafficking organizations that use Venezuela as a launchpad for cocaine shipments to the U.S. as well as Europe.

    ‘A Criminal Organization’
    “It is a criminal organization,” said the Justice Department official, referring to certain members of the upper echelons of the Venezuelan government and military.
     
  2. Nook

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    This shouldn't be shocking to anyone.

    Venezuela was screwed long before Chavez, but he did not make the situation any better and now you are seeing the after effects.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

    AroundTheWorld Insufferable 98er
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    glynch faints.

    Then awakes and blames it on the imperialist USA.
     
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  4. Mr. Clutch

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    The article is longer if anyone wants to see the rest of the sad story, let me know.

    I've met a lot of young people who have moved here from Venezuela because they simply cannot build lives over there anymore.
     
  5. A_3PO

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    So you mean the leftist criminals running Venezuela aren't good guys after all? Does this end the arguments finally?

    This should be a good read after I get home from work.
     
  6. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I think it goes beyond communism , Venezuela did not envision/expect that they made a deal with the devil ( Iran) (G2-2000s-2017) and became just like Afghanistan ,lebanon and Iraq , with a distinctive pattern of paralyzed government infected with drugs and deteriorated resources/services, including the national airline that carry more drugs than passengers on route Caracas-Damascus-Tehran (wikileaks)

    this is Beirut( what was Paris of the ME), it became the garbage capital of the world, they can't collect their trashes without the VETO of Supreme Mulla militants parties , let alone running hospitals

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  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The drop in the price of oil is damaging countries all over the world

    Venezuela funded it's communism on $75 barrel oil

    Brazil invested heavily in deep water drilling that requires at least $75 barrel oil to break even

    The middle East is falling apart cause dictators can't afford security

    That problem is driving too many refugees into Europe and their economies can't accommodate

    So forth and so on
     
  10. A_3PO

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    The surge of Muslim refugees into Europe is because of war, not the lower price of oil.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Cause there is no security in the ME cause dictators built half billion dollar palaces instead of saving money when times were good

    Now they can't afford security

    The problems there are just starting

    Soon it will be food
    The hostilities were held in check by people like Saddam

    Europeans get their fossil fuels from Putin

    Everyone is fracking, no need for middle eastern oil anymore
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I interviewed at Gazprom in 2010. That's the Russian natural gas company

    They had just moved downtown. A lady of Chinese descent from Singapore who I worked with got me the interview

    I asked why companies trade with them here cause they were bullies like Russians are

    He said we tell companies if you don't do business with us here we won't sell to you in Europe

    They have all the all the gas in Europe.

    That's what all that Ukraine crap is about.

    Natural Gas pipelines

    It's why the Russian Trump story is so stupid
    We are all in bed together
     
    #12 pgabriel, May 14, 2017
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