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Vegan Couple Sentenced to Life for Death of Baby

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Sishir Chang, May 9, 2007.

  1. ico4498

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    North Indian rich folk cuisine probably ...

    anyway, lots of folks (world over) go w/o any animal fat and find tons of veg produce that supplies them with all the fat required to lactate.
     
  2. Isabel

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    I respect all sorts of dietary choices, even vegan, but it's difficult, IMO, to argue against using breast milk to feed a baby. It's from your own species and it's Mother Nature's way of doing things for all mammals. If you can't lactate or aren't comfortable with the idea... there's formula, and it can be soy-based. These are the things you feed a very young baby, to make sure it gets its nutrients. No excuse for this.
     
  3. Blake

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    Yup..
     
  4. fadeaway

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    My parents were vegan during the first 3 years of my life and I was a ****** baby. They used to call me Dizzy Gillespie (famous Jazz trumpet player) because my cheeks were so fat. My first solid food was alfalfa sprouts.

    I was breastfed, however.

    There's nothing wrong with a vegetarian/vegan diet for the little bastards. The problem here was underfeeding.
     
  5. wizkid83

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    nm, I think they're just dumb
     
  6. Rocket River

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    I never said that
    or i did not meant that

    I mean that The people that refuse to take their kids to the doctor
    because of religious reason are usually given the same charge
    that
    these vegans get

    Basically
    They beliefs produced negative results
    even if they did not mean to do them
    therefore
    they are charged the same way

    Vegan is not religious .. just that IN THIS SITUATION .. they get the same
    charges that those religious folx get

    Rocket River
     
  7. Sishir Chang

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    You're probably right but I know in rural China and SE Asia there have been problems with protein deficiencies, one reason why many of them are so short, due to the lack of animal proteins. I don't know enough about India but it wouldn't surprise me if there have been problems with protein deficiencies in rural India.
     
  8. Isabel

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    oh, and if the parents don't get served the right kind of food in jail... they don't have to eat it. They can just go without eating... it's not supposed to hurt, right?...
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    Their blind adherence to an ideology makes them animals. They lost any moral ground the moment that happened.

    I have a feeling that they're being made as an example to other vegan extremists.

    I believe they can eat meat and fish, provided they spit rather than swallow.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    where does the B12 in the pill come from?

    Rocket River
     
  11. ymc

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    Dong Guai - the only plant that has Vitamin B12.
     
  12. rimbaud

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    Don't listen to ymc - of course vegan mothers give their babies breast milk. That is as nature intended. Vegans don't consume milk from OTHER animals because it is considered unnatural as well as cruel (process of extracting the milk), etc..

    Additionally, there are natural (plant) ways to get B12, it is just harder now because of the way produce is grown, cleaned, etc. so supplements are often taken, but the science on both sides is still fuzzy.
     
  13. DFWRocket

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    Some babies latch on to breastfeed right away, but many have a hard time latching on, and some never do and have to be bottle fed. Also, if the mom doesn't drink enough fluids, then she may not be producing enough milk. My wife had to up her intake of water significantly to feed our daughter.
    I can see feeding the child soy-milk, but AppleJuice is COMPLETELY unnaceptable at that age. Has very little nutritional value. Our 15-month old doesn't get much juice at all, and when she does, it is used as a substitute for Water (and its watered down by about half). NEVER use it as a food.
     
  14. ymc

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    I didn't say anything about what vegan mothers should give to their babies. I was describing the general practice of vegans to choose what they eat for themselves.

    Based on what I know, the mainstream vegan community suggests vegan mothers to breastfeed or use soy-based formula to feed their kids. Apparently, the couple here are newbies who should know better.
     
  15. RocketMan Tex

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    My Mom smoked a pack a day all through her pregnancy with me, and when I was teething, she used to rub scotch on my gums.

    And look how I turned out....

    [​IMG]

    ;) :D
     
  16. Surfguy

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    Wow...just unbelievable! I knew there were a lot of stupid people out there but this takes the (carrot) cake.
     
  17. rimbaud

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    Well I responded that way because of your following exchange:

    Vegans are not against consuming human milk as your first quote stated and that caused confusion which you seemed to continue with the last quote.
     

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