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Veepstakes 07/05

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Jul 5, 2008.

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Pick a VP

  1. Evan Bayh

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  2. Joe Biden

    12.9%
  3. Hillary Clinton

    22.6%
  4. Chet Edwards

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  5. John Edwards

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  6. Sam Nunn

    3.2%
  7. Kathleen Sebelius

    6.5%
  8. Jim Webb

    41.9%
  9. Other (say who and why)

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  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Bats, you don't this pedophilia is 'sexy' do you? Because that's what you just described it as.
     
  2. Batman Jones

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    Oh, also, to George...

    I'm sorry if I came off as a know-it-all. I'd love for everybody to contribute in his or her area of expertise.

    Maybe you could help by letting us know what each potential candidate's middle name is and what kind of racist, sexist, otherwise bigoted joke names you can make out of it!

    TIA, brah!
     
  3. Batman Jones

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    No I don't, but I do think you're sexy you little minx!

    Also, we've been through all this before. You're full of crap as usual.

    Stick to middle name/race jokes. Webb's is Henry. See what you can do...
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    Batman would you mind following up on this comment -- I would like to know what you consider 'sexy bits' and how they would effect his VP candidacy.

    Thanks.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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  6. Batman Jones

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    Dear George,

    What exactly did you hope to gain by raising this issue again after I kicked your ass on it so bad that you ran away 2 years ago and never came back?

    Here's the thread in which you declared this very issue to guarantee an Allen victory (LOL). My last reply to you, after which you went poof like always, is particularly good.

    Read it and weep, Traitor.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=119392&page=1&pp=20

    Some salient points:

    - The incident George describes was an eyewitness account of something Webb saw happen in Vietnam.

    - The book it comes from is recommended reading in The Marines.

    - John McCain is on record as a fan of the book.

    Go to the back of the class, Rookie.
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    I haven't read Webb's books, Cheetah. I've only read the reports of them, the mischaracterizations of them by trolls like George and the refutation of those mischaracterizations by people like, oh, The U.S. Marine Corps and John McCain.

    Bye, George!
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Batman, sorry to strike a nerve with you. But the fact of the matter is that Webb won that race because his opponent racially slurred a provacateur that Webb had hired to generally annoy the heck out of the Allen campaign. That's the facts. Without that, Webb loses.

    And by the way, there is simply no glossing over a very detailed account of pedophilia. Sorry, but that's not art.

    Why don't you answer Cheetah's question? What was 'sexy' about Webb's book?
     
  9. Batman Jones

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    p.s. to Cheetah...

    Since you wanted to know my opinion of how this particular issue might affect Webb's chances, maybe you could do the same for your pick.

    I am a fan of Biden and I'd be happy if he was picked. But how do you think his strange comments about Indian-Americans and his admitted plagiarism of Neil Kinnock speeches might affect his chances?
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    You didn't strike a nerve, George. I was very glad to be reminded of that thread in which I spanked you so hard you ran away crying never to mention any of this again until two years later. It's a great read. And it still awaits a response to the thorough pounding you took there.

    I've answered your questions. You ran away. You're on the clock, not me.

    Go poof now, baby.
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    Well, maybe we can find an excerpt so we both know exactly what these sexy bits are and why they may effect Webb's and thus Obama's electability.

    I agree with your comments on Biden -- if he can keep his foot out of his mouth.... he would move closer to being at the top of Obama's list.
     
  12. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Bats, you just might need a timeout... This latest spat of rage is coming particularly early in the night.

    You still haven't answered Cheetah's question, and you continue to cling to your failed defense of Webb's pedophilic commentary. Any objective reader declares you the loser in this exchange, friend.
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    Can you post Webb's exact quotes? This seems like a very serious issue for a VP candidate to deal with during a presidential election.
     
  14. Batman Jones

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    GEORGE:

    I did answer Cheetah's question. The answer is I haven't read the books. John McCain has though - including the one you reference - and he is a fan. Perhaps you should ask him why he's so into man-boy love.

    Also: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=119392&page=1&pp=20

    You chickened out there and now you're trying to start the whole conversation over again. My answers to your questions are there. Your answers back apparently went poof along with George Allen.

    CHEETAH:

    When I said "sexy" bits I meant "sexual" bits. It's impossible for me to say if they're literally sexy or not as I've only barely glanced at George's posting of out of context quotes from them. I haven't read them, but a lot of Marines have as they are recommended reading in the Corps. McCain recommends them as well.

    But if you want to consider the whole question yourself, I direct you to this thread in which George made the charges, got slammed to the floor, wet himself and ran away crying. All the info you need should be right here:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=119392&page=1&pp=20
     
  15. KingCheetah

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    I want to have a simple discussion here in this thread about the comments -- I don't want search through old threads or hash over the semantics of sexy bits.

    What did Webb say/ write of a sexual nature that may be considered a problem for the Dems in November?
     
  16. El_Conquistador

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    ...and Batman begins to backtrack -- Obama style. I didn't mean it, now that I'm stuck in a bad situation! Really I promise! I've always hated Jeremiah Wright, I've always wanted to stay the course in Iraq, I've always opposed public financing, and I've always supported FISA!!! Talk about no cred Batman... Kudos to you sir, in that I was able to get you to backtrack on your orginal post in a matter of mere minutes. Weak effort.

    Oh, and Cheetah, since Batman just wants to dodge your question and sling mud at The_Conquistador, here are the disgusting passages from Webb. I'm not even going to print them on this BBS because they are so perverted and deranged.

    http://politics.wizbangblog.com/2006/10/26/whoa-jim-webbs-dirty-novel-passages.php
     
  17. Batman Jones

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    I'm sorry Cheetah, but you're going to have to click on the link I posted or find the info elsewhere through google search.

    George's very first post in his failure of a thread includes the most controversial quotes. The rest of the thread includes a discussion of the exact sort you are trying to have here.

    I'm not re-posting the quotes without the responses to them. You're free to if you like. And then I'll repost the responses. But it seems like kind of a waste of bandwidth since we would then have two threads that said the exact same thing.

    Here it is again, for your convenience:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=119392&page=1&pp=20
     
  18. Batman Jones

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    Obama has never said he hated Wright. He has never wanted to "stay the course" in Iraq, he has never opposed public financing and he has never supported wiretapping without warrants from a FISA court.

    (By the way, I do LOVE it when you bring up FISA. It's one more opportunity to remind everyone that you thought the warrants were going to be served to the terrorists. That had to be the single stupidest thing you've ever said here and that's really saying something.)

    All of the above statements about Obama's positions are just lies. You know, there's a way to criticize him on all that stuff without lying. But you just can't help yourself.

    I also love how you're too scared to defend your miserable performance in the thread in which we first had this conversation.

    Here it is again, so we can all revel in your embarrassment...

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=119392&page=1&pp=20
     
  19. KingCheetah

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    You won't just give us a quick summary of why those quotes are inaccurate and why they won't harm Obama in November ?

    I like Biden you like Webb -- it's not like we are in a winner take all battle to the death here.
     
  20. Batman Jones

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    Sure, I can do that. I can't do it authoritatively because, again, I haven't read the books, but I can do it to the best of my ability.

    Most of the quotes I've seen are just of graphic (and often weird) sex scenes. One involves a woman dividing a banana into four equal pieces with her vagina. They're graphic and weird in the same way that some of Scooter Libby's books are. The important difference here is that Scooter never ran for office.

    The quote that George gets all wet over is one about an incident Webb says he witnessed in Vietnam in which a native boy ran across a field into his father's arms and his father picked him up and put his penis in his mouth. Webb described it as something he witnessed; George called it a fantasy of Webb's and an endorsement of pedophilia.

    The Marine Corps called the book one of the best accounts of real events in Vietnam around and included it on a recommended reading list for Marine Corps professional development. And McCain said he was a fan of the book too.

    Let me know if you have any other questions, though most likely the answers are in that thread and I'd just be looking them up for you. If you're really interested I recommend reading it. It's only 4 pages long.

    On Biden vs. Webb, of course we're not in a fight over that. I like them both and would be happy if either was chosen. There are drawbacks to both too.
     

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