Vecsey: Rockets looking for a PG and a big man on the QT

Why not? Didn't seem to bother Jerry Sloan last year when the Jazz beat us. Let me see...now wasn't that rookie Milsap a constant thorn in our side?

 

if the goal is to make the playoffs, the rockets are fine.

if the goal is to win a championship, then big changes are required.

adding a tweak or two will not get us a championship. i think we can all agree on that.

so that leaves one option to me.

i know that i wouldn't want Morey's job.

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...~1051~2445~901&teams=10~17~17~17~17&te=&cash=

Nice

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...~901~138&teams=10~17~12~12~17~17~10&te=&cash=

Perfect

 

if by "nice" and "perfect" you mean "really dumb" and "horrible" then yes, i agree

say no to VC. actually, don't just say no. put your tinfoil hat on, run and hide in the closet, and pray to the diety of your choice that this doesnt happen.

 

Yah, but the Rockets have to take on Kenny Thomas or Brian Cardinal in order to obtain Artest or Miller as has been reported. I don't think the Rockets do it. That's too much salary committed to too few of guys especially when some of our current contracts don't have trade value. See Alston and Mike James. I know it gives us some talent this year but locks us up and puts us in the luxury tax zone for a couple years which I don't think Les is willing to do. I could be wrong but I don't think if you're the Rockets you take on either one of those crappy contracts and give up young talent with smaller contracts in the processs. Unfortunatley, the business side will prevail in this argument as much as I'd love to have either on the team.

 

How did a thread about a Peter Vescey report reach five pages???

*realizes he just replied* ... Oh, I see.

You think wrong. We are not far from being championship caliber.

 

based on what evidence?

our record against surefire playoff teams (bos/det/lal/noh/uta/sas/dal/phx/orl) currently stands at 7 wins and 11 losses.

we have a 15 and 15 record if you include den/tor/gsw/cle/por/was in that group.

that doesn't smell like a close-to-championship caliber team to me.

 

I would like to know Super's thoughts on that as well because I don't see it. Especially with the PG position being so weak and the SF position being fragile on offense with hardly any lane penetration.

 

You're right, I remember how Cassell and Horry sucked for us during the championship years.

 

Don't you see. He got those stats playing on garbage teams without a 111 to spread the floor and create for him. He got those on his own. And the only thing Luther can do is shoot it. If Delonte is as good a shooter, then he's obviously a better handle and better defender. It's a no brainer.

 

Most of those games were played during a period that we were losing to everybody. Philly, Memphis, Sacto, you name it. We were playing with an incomplete starting lineup in many of them, too.

During this run, we are 6-2 against those teams, and McGrady is still returning to form.

 

I'd swap Luther Head for Delonte West in a NY second......no idea why Seattle would go for it though...

 

so your rationale for us being championship caliber is that we've not only lost to good teams, but bad teams as well?

if youre going to play the "we weren't at full strength" card, then it should be mentioned that in our recent run we played sas during their slump, cle w/o their entire frontcourt, was without 2 of their big 3, portland during their slump, etc. it goes both ways.

the team is playing better, but for you to say the rockets are championship caliber, you must have confidence we can beat any of the top western teams in a seven game series. if so, based on what?

 

Alright, well then I can take it a step further, too.

As I said, we went 6-2 during this run. One of those two losses was against the Jazz, when we were without Yao Ming. The other one of those two was against the Hornets, when we were without Tracy McGrady.

... In both games, we had a fourth quarter lead, too... Not to excuse those 4th quarter collapses, but my point is that even in the only two losses we had to playoff teams (to RED hot WC powerhouses), we were right there with them even though we were significantly less than full strength.

The only thing the Rockets should maybe be looking for is a PG. Unless this is a 20-plus-game fluke, we are for real.

 

being "for real" is not championship caliber. in 04 we were red hot and "for real" and we didnt get out of the first round. last year we were playing great ball down the stretch while utah was collapsing and we didnt get out of the first round.

the playoffs are a different animal altogether. if you want to say we're a playoff caliber team, then yes, i agree. but a championship caliber team? with no history of success whatsoever in the playoffs? i just dont think you can make that leap.

(unless les gets us moved to the eastern conference!) hahaha.

 

Clearly we have pretty different definitions of what it means to be for rizzeal.

Anyways, I am not opposed to a move (again, for a PG), but we shouldn't try to force a blockbuster unless something great comes up. It has to be a clearly vertical move, because if we switch up major rotation players after a run like this and don't get an undeniable improvement in talent, the risk is most likely greater than the potential reward.

 

i think we're closer to a champioship contender than a lot of fans think. things will almost for sure change some for the remainder of the season, but for the moment -

the spurs don't appear to be as feared as they used to be;

the mavs are in trouble with the injuries and if the kidd trade does go through, that should be a good news for us;

the suns face big time uncertainty with shaq joining the starting 5 soon;

and

we're apparently heading to the right direction. the kings game imo was a fluke in the 4th quarter. our chemistry seems to be great, concentration level is good. more importantly, we have the righ ingredients to be successful in the playoffs (i've never had any doubt we'd make it) - a dominant post player, excellent team defence, 3pt shooters, blue-collar hustle players, specialits in novak and hayes, etc.

if mcgrady is playing at the level where he used to be or still should be, i'd say we are already champ contenders - regardless of the current standings.

c'mon guys, have some confidence in our team.

 

yeah lets drop 5 player for j.kidd and malik rose!
just make sure we don't trade devean george! haha

 

if pigs flew they would be birds

go watch tmac from orlando highlights and watch tmac from this year's highlights.

if it werent for the face and tattoos, you would never think the two are the same player.

 

i get what you wanted to say. i was actually just referring to the level of play he had in the mavs and jazz series. now is that too much to ask? he can't possibly only have that much left in his tank like he displayed in recent home games!